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Evidence that the Neanderthals were the first seafarers?

74 pointsby dom111about 2 years ago

11 comments

bigtonesabout 2 years ago
The referenced paper on this was published more than a decade ago (2012): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencedirect.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;article&#x2F;abs&#x2F;pii&#x2F;S0305440312000441?via%3Dihub" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencedirect.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;article&#x2F;abs&#x2F;pii&#x2F;S03054...</a>
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robertlagrantabout 2 years ago
It&#x27;s an interesting theory, but as often is the case, the title is far more definite than the content.
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rightbyteabout 2 years ago
Also seems possible that the tools might have been moved, at a later date? I imagine a stone age person digging through some Neanderthal settlement remains, would loot any tools.
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Maursaultabout 2 years ago
&gt; Long before modern humans existed, 100,000 years ago<p>100,000ya ago is not &quot;long before modern humans existed.&quot; Modern humans are Homo sapiens, and the oldest known Homo sapiens remains (to date, that we know of) are dated to 300,000 years ago, which is now apparently 200,000 years before &quot;long before&quot; Homo sapiens existed. I guess the good news is we invent the time machine before too long.
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blastroabout 2 years ago
Anyone here ever read &quot;Critical Path&quot; by Buckminster Fuller? In it, BF winds a compelling narrative of the speculative pre-history of humanity, and touches on the early seafarers and how their tools and science have affected civilization from that point on.
dbcooperabout 2 years ago
Okay, this really doesn&#x27;t look like a sober scientific publication.<p>Source: Another scam blog. LOL.
karaterobotabout 2 years ago
&gt; Unfortunately, archaeologists are unable to provide additional evidence because any boats used by Neanderthals would have been made of wood, which would have long since decomposed to nothing.<p>Why make the leap to assume they invented sails, given the lack of physical evidence? I mean, it seems reasonable to think they could have rowed or even floated 40km long before they developed sails, and that they would develop those techniques on the way to doing that.
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D13Fdabout 2 years ago
Did they take sea levels into account? It may not be realistically swimmable now, but it could have been at some point fairly recently when sea levels were lower.
tomcamabout 2 years ago
Moorage fees back then? Practically nothing.
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greatpostmanabout 2 years ago
This idea that we were only sophisticated for the last few thousand years is laughable
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AndrewKemendoabout 2 years ago
I think it’s important to note that this is just showing that Neanderthal were sailing long before modern human remains of sailing were dated to - lll<p>Modern humans and Neanderthals (and Denisovians) coexist for about 100-150k years before modern humans basically killed them all after interbreeding.
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