TE
TechEcho
Home24h TopNewestBestAskShowJobs
GitHubTwitter
Home

TechEcho

A tech news platform built with Next.js, providing global tech news and discussions.

GitHubTwitter

Home

HomeNewestBestAskShowJobs

Resources

HackerNews APIOriginal HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 TechEcho. All rights reserved.

Apple just lost its lawsuit trying to ban iOS virtual machines

636 pointsby mulle_natabout 2 years ago

14 comments

okamiueruabout 2 years ago
What I want to do is not have to have a unified build system for multiple platforms and ABIs without any problem, but for some reason, to target anything apple, I have to use a physical apple machine.<p>It&#x27;s absolutely abusing market position, because it ends up being that in my profession, you end up purchasing mac computers for the whole office, because then you can target all platforms without any fuss. Not because the hardware or software has any merits, but because they artificially restrict these use cases so that&#x27;s the only option to target a significant market.
评论 #35885028 未加载
评论 #35885192 未加载
评论 #35884987 未加载
评论 #35886184 未加载
评论 #35886125 未加载
评论 #35885303 未加载
评论 #35889202 未加载
评论 #35884863 未加载
评论 #35886794 未加载
评论 #35885557 未加载
crazygringoabout 2 years ago
Can someone remind me <i>why</i> Apple is so anti-VM in seemingly every instance?<p>It just seems so arbitrary and unhelpful, and I have a hard time imagining that the amount of hardware purchased it forces outweigh the benefits from making macOS&#x2F;iOS better platforms for development and computation.<p>It just seems like such an odd stance to take.
评论 #35882463 未加载
评论 #35883367 未加载
评论 #35883657 未加载
评论 #35883125 未加载
评论 #35882475 未加载
评论 #35885178 未加载
评论 #35882634 未加载
评论 #35892583 未加载
评论 #35902518 未加载
评论 #35882721 未加载
ftyhbhyjnjkabout 2 years ago
Good good. Apple has been abusing their dominant position for far too long. If it&#x27;s my hardware, I&#x27;ll do whatever tf I want. Apple can&#x27;t do shit.
评论 #35884055 未加载
评论 #35884551 未加载
phireabout 2 years ago
Before anyone jumps to conclusions, all this ruling means is that this example of an iOS virtual machine (for the purpose of security research) counts as fair use.<p>It doesn&#x27;t exactly open the doors for everyone to run iOS in virtual machines.
评论 #35883006 未加载
评论 #35885324 未加载
Robotbeatabout 2 years ago
Now I&#x27;d like to be able to legally run MacOS on a virtual machine or on AWS or Azure or Google Cloud or something. I know you can rent a bare metal Apple Mini or something, but Apple&#x27;s terms of service make this all basically illegal to use like any other VM.<p>That means if I want to develop an app for iOS (beyond just what you can do in Swift Playgrounds), I can&#x27;t just boot up a VM or AWS instance, I have to either buy an actual Mac Mini (cheapest option) or rent one.
评论 #35883646 未加载
评论 #35882505 未加载
评论 #35882347 未加载
jamesy0ungabout 2 years ago
I&#x27;d love to make use of the power of the M2 chip in my ipad and run VM&#x27;s on it. Shame apple won&#x27;t let us.
评论 #35882543 未加载
TobyTheDog123about 2 years ago
It&#x27;s funny how the 30% tax and App Store nonsense automatically makes me want Apple to lose every single court case in perpetuity.<p>Having such a monopoly on a device you purchase really means the legal system needs to take you down a notch.
评论 #35882484 未加载
评论 #35882582 未加载
评论 #35884736 未加载
评论 #35881738 未加载
评论 #35885892 未加载
gregsadetskyabout 2 years ago
Discussed yesterday - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35866431" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35866431</a>
评论 #35881318 未加载
WirelessGigabitabout 2 years ago
I thought they dropped the suit 2 years ago... <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;appleinsider.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;21&#x2F;08&#x2F;11&#x2F;apple-settles-lawsuit-against-virtualization-firm-corellium" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;appleinsider.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;21&#x2F;08&#x2F;11&#x2F;apple-settles-law...</a>
评论 #35886032 未加载
qwerty456127about 2 years ago
Geat news! What about iOS-hosted virtual machines? I managed to install DosBox on one device in our family just before they blocked it but I want it, also a Linux VM and a real Firefox everywhere.
评论 #35885059 未加载
uf00lmeabout 2 years ago
I don&#x27;t see how Apple doesn&#x27;t have a few hardware and software combo card to play here that make it impossible more effort than it is worth to try to emulate.
lisbon44about 2 years ago
unexpected outcome for justifying fair-use with modern technology at stake, any progress defanging the D.M.C.A as of recent?
fennecfoxyabout 2 years ago
No wonder Apple make so much god-damned money.
omgomgomgomgabout 2 years ago
Parallel or something like that lets you run windows on mac os.<p>I think thats a fair decision, always found macs looking nice, but dislike many of the apps. Windows and ms suite on mac is on my bucket list now.
评论 #35881679 未加载
评论 #35881595 未加载