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Tell HN: YC is censoring stories about Reid Hoffman and Jeffery Epstein

3 pointsby wootlandabout 2 years ago
I had recently submitted part 2 of a WSJ report about Jeffery Epstein&#x27;s calendar including his meetings with Reid Hoffman. Part 1 was previously submitted to HN:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35762731" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35762731</a><p>My post quickly went to the front-page where it mysteriously vanished. A few hours later it got tagged with [flagged] but that was after it had been manually removed from the front-page:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35806599" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35806599</a><p>I know that YC does a lot of work with Hoffman so I was disappointed, but not surprised.<p>Fast forward to today and I see the official YC account actually <i>promoting</i> Hoffman:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;ycombinator&#x2F;status&#x2F;1656675146588110850" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;ycombinator&#x2F;status&#x2F;1656675146588110850</a><p>So I think it&#x27;s worth noting that this site is complicit with covering for Epstein&#x27;s network and has direct relationships with it. Worth keeping in mind when you see what is and isn&#x27;t allowed on HN.<p>EDIT: And now <i>this</i> post has been [flagged]. This seems like something we need to talk about a lot more on and off this site.

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dangabout 2 years ago
Yikes. And re <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35906511" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35906511</a> - double yikes.<p>YC isn&#x27;t censoring your posts, and they didn&#x27;t fall in rank or get flagged because of &quot;Epstein&#x27;s network&quot;. It&#x27;s just the same standard forces that every thread here is subject to.<p>HN users heavily flagged all of the posts that you&#x27;ve linked to—including the current post and all the others you posted today (which, please stop! it&#x27;s both off topic and against the site guidelines, which ask you to email us at hn@ycombinator.com if you have a question about what&#x27;s going on on the site. I only saw this thread by accident.)<p>In the case of <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35762731" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35762731</a>, it also set off the flamewar detector and got a standard penalty from a moderator that we apply to sensational and&#x2F;or repetitive stories. Those penalties have nothing to do with Epstein or any other specific content - it&#x27;s just a standard moderation function that helps clear space for the more intellectually interesting stories that HN is supposed to be for. If we didn&#x27;t do this, the front page would be dominated by sensationalism, indignation, and rage - which would be a very different site.<p>In any case, the most important factor affecting your posts was user flags. Why would users flag your posts? They&#x27;re obviously not all part of &quot;Epstein&#x27;s network&quot;. It&#x27;s because they don&#x27;t think this story is on topic for Hacker News.<p>HN actually had quite a few Epstein threads (see <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?dateRange=all&amp;page=0&amp;prefix=true&amp;query=epstein%20-barr%20comments%3E10&amp;sort=byDate&amp;type=story&amp;storyText=none" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?dateRange=all&amp;page=0&amp;prefix=true&amp;que...</a>), but the topic has long been running up against the fatigue of the community, which kicks in when something has been repeated a lot and isn&#x27;t yielding interesting new information.<p><i>You</i> may feel it&#x27;s interesting—I assume you do or you wouldn&#x27;t have posted the articles—but the bulk of the community just doesn&#x27;t agree with you about that. That&#x27;s why your posts aren&#x27;t getting traction—not because of HN mods and certainly not because of shadowy powers inside YC.<p>As for <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;ycombinator&#x2F;status&#x2F;1656675146588110850" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;ycombinator&#x2F;status&#x2F;1656675146588110850</a> - that&#x27;s just a staffer doing their job, posting content about YC funded startups, and I doubt they have the slightest idea about Epstein associations.