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Wonky – An exploration of rhythm and grooves that break the rules

138 pointsby mrzoolalmost 2 years ago

10 comments

maroonblazeralmost 2 years ago
“When you learn music, you’re trained to think [in terms of a] “right way” and a “wrong way.” - Jacob Collier, from TFA<p>Only if you have a lousy teacher. The best teachers are, in a sense, history professors. Their job is to show you how to imitate the masters. In that sense, Collier might be right, given one can objectively measure whether you&#x27;re close to, or far from, emulating a given artist. But imitation is only a means to an end. You learn to imitate the masters so that you can stand on their shoulders and invent something new. I suspect that&#x27;s what J Dilla was up to.<p>&quot;Imitate, Assimilate, Innovate&quot; - Clark Terry, paraphrased.
Gualdrapoalmost 2 years ago
Related: Jojo Mayer&#x27;s &quot;The distance between 0 and 1&quot; TED Talk [0]<p>Being a prospect of a drummer for more than 20 years (and still without an own drum set...) I&#x27;ve struggled with timing in general. The fluctuations on tempo, playing precise (in like don&#x27;t playing flams unintentionally when playing two notes at unison with different limbs) and subdivisions.<p>And as said in this thing, mainstream music nowadays uses all sorts of things to &quot;perfect&quot; things - most notably autotune and the &quot;quantized&quot; rythm thing. Their effects are subtle but I am almost sure even the most untrained ear can feel modern music records just sound different than at least a couple of decades ago.<p>All in all it made me realize that while mastering time keeping is the main task of a drummer, another is the ability to play loose (I recall one video from the &#x27;youtuber&#x27; &quot;the 80&#x2F;20 drummer&quot; about that) and all that&#x27;s between those two ways to play time.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=-RMVRLhAyhQ">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=-RMVRLhAyhQ</a>
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leshokuninalmost 2 years ago
This was a delight to navigate. Hadn&#x27;t seen this much polish on presenting an audio interview. Feels very native to the web. Thanks for sharing
weinzierlalmost 2 years ago
This is brilliant - the idea and the execution. Love it.<p>I encountered a slight bug. When I first scrolled through it, the &#x27;outside the club background ambience&#x27; sound never stopped and I found it quite distracting, especially when listening to the examples.<p>After I had scrolled up to the beginning and then down again it stopped - so I assume first time was a glitch. If you encounter it too, I suppose it is not intentional.
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NoboruWatayaalmost 2 years ago
Really cool page. I&#x27;m not musical at all but find the theory very interesting and this breaks it down in a very accessible way. I have to say I struggled to follow some of the later examples in my head, as it was difficult for me to tell the component pieces apart while also following the timing, but if I tried hard I could pick it up.<p>Kind of a different topic, but this reminded me of when I first read <i>The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle</i> by Haruki Murakami. It really opened my eyes to how literature (and art in general) didn&#x27;t need to follow a set formula or be tied to any structure or reality to be enjoyable. It helped me appreciate other surrealist and magic realist art which I enjoy for, seemingly, a lot of the same reasons as people enjoy J Dilla&#x27;s work.
codedokodealmost 2 years ago
Very interesting but swing is so difficult to hear in real tracks. Also I noted that in the &quot;swing&quot; example, if I enable swing on bass and hi-hats then kick and snare (which are supposed to be straight) start to sound slightly off beat.
ndsipa_pomualmost 2 years ago
As great as J Dilla was, I still think Q-Tip has the best ear for samples.
RickJWagneralmost 2 years ago
Hey, this is nice! As an enthusiastic (but still learning) musician, I appreciate the effort that went into this. If the author is here, Thanks!
crimsoneeralmost 2 years ago
Pudding.cool are awesome.
deathmonger5000almost 2 years ago
I love this! Really nicely done!