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George Hotz of Tinygrad fame: AMD rant, giving up on AMD

17 pointsby artoalmost 2 years ago

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SilverBirchalmost 2 years ago
I was waiting to see when this would turn up on Hacker News. George seems to have a really weird blind spot when it comes to understanding the meta-problem of engineering. When he originally announced this project, he literally explained how terrible the AMD driver is! Yet he spent no time to think why it&#x27;s like that.<p>He&#x27;s shocked and angry that AMD isn&#x27;t rushing to fix bugs. Well that does sound frustrating, but literally any engineer in the industry could have told you that was going to happen and exactly why. It turns out, everyone else isn&#x27;t a dumb as you think, and you aren&#x27;t as smart as you think you are -the problems you&#x27;re trying to solve are <i>difficult</i>.<p>It&#x27;s hilarious hearing him rant though - &quot;I&#x27;m not asking for literally anything, except for you to be like holy shit this is the top priority for entire graphics division of AMD&quot;. Dude. You&#x27;re lucky they even speak to you. I can&#x27;t imagine why Lisa Su the CEO of AMD won&#x27;t respond to your emails, I mean you represent possibly several thousandths of a percent of increase revenue to them.<p>AMD is a hardware company. This is how hardware companies behave. It&#x27;s frustrating, but it absolutely is something that was known before George started this project.<p>One thing he didn&#x27;t really pick up on is that the patch that he was angry about has broken English. Why? Because almost certainly AMD outsourced a bunch of their engineering to low cost countries and this is the result. They are not hiring the brightest and the best to work on this. They&#x27;re selling chips and keeping a good gross margin because that&#x27;s what the stock market wants.
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kramergeralmost 2 years ago
First twitter now AMD?<p>Come on George, if you continue giving up this easily someone may make you a product manager at Google soon
flipgimblealmost 2 years ago
tinygrad and Hotz came on my radar only recently, so I looked into it. the most insightful comment, thats proven even more accurate with time, is this one: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36066136" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36066136</a><p>quote: &quot;he gets excited about the currently hot thing in tech, makes his own knockoff version, generates a ton of buzz in the tech press for it, and then it fizzles out because he doesn&#x27;t have the resources or attention span to actually make something at that scale&quot;
aigoochamnaalmost 2 years ago
A close friend of mine went to highschool with George. Everything I read about him coincides perfectly with all of the highschool stories. At least he has stuck true to himself all these years :p
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SenHengalmost 2 years ago
This &#x27;rant&#x27; is 5 hours long.
lyu07282almost 2 years ago
previous discussion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36189705" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36189705</a>