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Apple Introduces M2 Ultra

374 pointsby 0xedbalmost 2 years ago

22 comments

Tayweealmost 2 years ago
I would love to be able to socket one of these suckers in a Linux desktop for a reasonable price. I'm loving seeing competition in this field, but I don't like using MacOS and don't want to pay the Apple hardware tax.
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tester756almost 2 years ago
Is there a name for this kind of speak?<p>&gt;&quot;(...) further than ever&quot;<p>&gt;&quot;(...) largest and most (...) Apple has ever created&quot;<p>&gt;&quot;(...) the most powerful (...) ever made&quot;<p>&gt;&quot;performance to a whole new level (...)&quot;<p>You can say this thing at every release, what&#x27;s the point? Of course you aren&#x27;t going to release product which is going to be slower, right?
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aqme28almost 2 years ago
So there&#x27;s an M2 Ultra, M2 Max, and M2 Pro. I hate this naming scheme. It is totally unclear how you&#x27;re supposed to order those in terms of performance.
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linuxhanslalmost 2 years ago
I mentioned this before... As a Linux user I am getting more and more afraid of being left behind.<p>In the end this spurring Intel to innovate, but will it be enough?<p>I realize there are some Linux&#x27; running on Apple H&#x2F;W, but due to do the closed nature (H&#x2F;W specs anyone?) it will already be inferior to MacOS.<p>I have a MacBook from work, and strongly dislike (hate?) MacOS.
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RcouF1uZ4gsCalmost 2 years ago
&gt; For example, M2 Ultra can train massive machine learning workloads in a single system that the most powerful discrete GPU can’t even process.<p>It&#x27;s interesting to see that Apple is explicitly targeting the M2 Ultra as an alternative to GPUs for machine learning.<p>I think it is great for consumers for Nvidia to have a competitor in this space. If you wanted to do ML, you really didn&#x27;t have much of an option other than Nvidia, which allowed Nvidia to do things like disable certain features in consumer GPUs even though the hardware was capable and limit RAM. Having Apple as a competitor in the consumer space will force them to up their game.
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pseudopersonalalmost 2 years ago
With a unified 192GB memory, could this challenge nvidia&#x27;s lock on ML training? Or is CUDA still insurmountable?
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behnamohalmost 2 years ago
This paves the way for really large local LLMs coming to Apple&#x27;s ecosystem.
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frankjralmost 2 years ago
Interesting that the chip still doesn&#x27;t seem to support hardware acceleration for AV1 despite the fact that Apple is a member of the Alliance for Open Media consortium which developed the format.
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metta2uallalmost 2 years ago
&quot;Better for the Environment&quot;...<p>What&#x27;s even better for the environment is not buying a new computer unless it&#x27;s actually necessary.. my refurbished M1 Air 8GB still works great - I can comfortably run a Debian VM with Vivaldi &amp; VS Code (doing .NET development), and when I need a GPU for a few hours a month I just use a cloud instance.
qweifjoiOIJ32almost 2 years ago
On desktop benchmarks no Apple CPU in top 20 (AMD beats the most powerful apple chip by 2.5 times):<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cpubenchmark.net&#x2F;desktop.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cpubenchmark.net&#x2F;desktop.html</a><p>On laptops it looks the same (AMD is 2.x times faster):<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cpubenchmark.net&#x2F;laptop.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cpubenchmark.net&#x2F;laptop.html</a><p>So where is the astonishing performance Apple claims all the time?<p>Yes, I know it consumes less power, but my laptop is docked 95% of the time, so I&#x27;d rather have more power than more battery life.
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nilsbungeralmost 2 years ago
They have a silicon interposer to connect two dies. That’s a really cool way to effectively make a chip twice as big. Is this a new technique ?
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mnky9800nalmost 2 years ago
They really missed out on the chance to call it MK Ultra.
j-kentalmost 2 years ago
great, I can&#x27;t wait to buy a new Mac Air with the most powerful consumer chip ever made paired with 8gb ram and 128g HD.<p>Note: I have a M1 Air that I love, best computer I&#x27;ve ever owned.
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JLCarvethalmost 2 years ago
134 billion transistors, impressive.
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Mayora13almost 2 years ago
Today, I had an interesting encounter after work when I brought my Framework laptop to the store. I had a chance to closely compare it with the current MacBook Pro line and wanted to share some thoughts.<p>Firstly, I was not particularly impressed with the MacBook Pro cases and haptics. The build quality seems to have deteriorated compared to previous iterations. Granted, this could be a matter of personal preference, but it seems to me that Apple&#x27;s relentless pursuit of thinness and lightness has come at the expense of the premium, robust feel of their older MacBook models.<p>As for the haptic feedback, it felt a bit off. Earlier MacBooks had a satisfying clickiness and responsiveness, but that didn&#x27;t seem to be the case with the current model I tested. I suppose this could be subjective, and perhaps some may prefer the current haptic approach.<p>On a positive note, the brightness of the screen was impressive - it certainly stood out. Apple has always been at the forefront of display technology and it&#x27;s evident they are maintaining their standards in that regard.<p>Comparing with other laptops in the store, I couldn&#x27;t help but appreciate the Framework&#x27;s design and user-focused approach even more. Other laptops felt plasticky and cheap in comparison, with subpar build quality and aesthetic.<p>Despite the MacBook&#x27;s stellar screen, it&#x27;s hard to beat the Framework when it comes to customization, repairability, and the ethos of the company. It&#x27;s a refreshing change in an industry that seems to be moving towards sealed units that discourage user modification and repairs.<p>The old MacBooks were in a different league altogether, and it&#x27;s disheartening to see how things have evolved. I would love to see a return to a focus on robust build quality and user experience beyond just raw specifications and form factor.
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THENATHEalmost 2 years ago
I find it laughable that they advertise “gaming performance” every year and fail to mention that they’ve actively kept gaming out of of the apple ecosystem for essentially forever (or at least as long as I can remember)
toughalmost 2 years ago
Waiting for MK2 Ultra
drexlspiveyalmost 2 years ago
I’m guessing those might power the upcoming headset
ofoualmost 2 years ago
Check here, Geekbench performance per dollar.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.google.com&#x2F;spreadsheets&#x2F;d&#x2F;12cza6j1QuSMbc5cOf3pBmjtyCUnc6cADPdFBJSrsp8k&#x2F;edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.google.com&#x2F;spreadsheets&#x2F;d&#x2F;12cza6j1QuSMbc5cOf3pB...</a>
kimovskialmost 2 years ago
Made in Taiwan?
user6723almost 2 years ago
I would gladly pay Apple $30,000, like I will get financing and see this as a new car payment, for a machine where all chips are full open source and documented and detachable and auditable.
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varispeedalmost 2 years ago
Ok why is it so expensive? Is it because there is no competition or because they have poor yields on that chip?<p>I mean after all this is just a phone in a fancy big case. I mean, they are not too constrained by the size nor the cooling. Extra connections on board add how much, $50?<p>I&#x27;d think the beefiest version wouldn&#x27;t cost more than $2000. It doesn&#x27;t have a screen like a laptop etc.
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