I lack the psychology knowledge to know for sure - but isn't it quite normal psychological behavior to go into full rejection-mode, if someone tries to push something down your throat too hard?<p>Nobody likes being manipulated - and if the manipulation attempts are too obvious and shameless - wouldn't people reject whatever is being pushed at them, just to assert their independence and self-determination?<p>Even if the product being pushed at them might otherwise be something they'd want to take a closer look at?<p>For me personally, Microsofts' behavior is definitely pushing me further away from trying or using Edge. Just hearing the word "Edge" creates negative emotions for me - simply because of many years of getting it inappropriately shoved into my face. The first thought that goes through my mind, when I see "Edge" or "Bing" mentioned anywhere in Windows is "Not again. F*k off. Just leave me in peace. Respect my decision to use the browser of MY choice."<p>As Microsoft is continuing to be so pushy, aren't more and more people going to end up being immediately annoyed just at the bare mention of Edge or Bing?
Microsoft is very hostile toward its users. They added Ads in the paid version of the operating system. You can't uninstall Edge. Even if you remove Edge, which is difficult, the following Windows update will reinstall it. Instead of searching for the next big idea, how about you fix your dam OS first and stop installing stupid games and showing Ads? Keep it Microsoft with your stupid games, and Google has nothing to worry about you. LOL.
Bing search in Firefox on Linux, not logged into Microsoft, for "Chrome":<p><pre><code> Promoted by Microsoft
Microsoft Edge
Try the latest browser from Microsoft
Microsoft Edge is powered by the same open source technology as Google Chrome,
providing best in class web and extension compatibility.
</code></pre>
Bing has become annoying about putting ads before real results, and often hiding the real results. Bing image search is awful about this.
I can't reproduce. If I search for 'chrome', the answer I get back from Bing AI:<p>> Chrome is a web browser developed by Google. It is known for its speed, simplicity, and security features. Would you like to know more about Chrome?<p>Additionally, I get a proper download link for Chrome as the top result. This is on Edge.<p>Performing this on Chrome yields a different, arguably better answer from Bing AI.<p>> Chrome is a web browser developed by Google1. It is fast, secure, and free to download and use. It also has features like bookmarks sync, form autofill, and Google smarts built-in. Chrome supports various operating systems, such as Windows, Mac, Linux, and Chromebook. You can check if your device meets the system requirements to use Chrome3.
It must really, really suck to be a Google executive finally seeing their own stunts reversed on them. It's absolutely amazing how much criticism Microsoft pushing Bing gets when Google did it more and worse for longer.<p>As usual: People who generally use Google products don't even notice how insanely aggressively Google uses it's various monopolies to push their other products. I have a screenshot of Gmail on Firefox which had three separate Chrome banners stacked in my browser at once.
What I think was going on: Bing opened an A/B test to test a feature (which explains why the author couldn’t reproduce everywhere). The new feature related to how search terms were classified as “Bing features”. Maybe it was some kind of threshold. Because of that change, searches for “chrome” were tagged as “Bing features” and therefore the flow for promoting Bing was triggered.<p>Ultimately the goal of such an experiment is to increase the uptake of Edge but they overshot it this time.
Not sure which party has no shame, is it the users who continue to get treated like aholes by ms and continue to expect them to change or ms who continue to treat their users as aholes every chance they get.<p>Just leave their eco systems, reject their products until they treat their customers better.
Someone had to write about this properly but blaming Bing is shortsighted. This is what LLM based searches are bound to turn into: full page undisclosed ads disguised as helpful summaries. Bing, Bard, and likely others will do the same.
Microsoft has been pulling this shit for a <i>long</i> time:<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AARD_code" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AARD_code</a>
called it<p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34735045#34736028" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34735045#34736028</a>
If Microsoft is this hostile and in your face with its paying users, I'm concerned about what its policies are when it comes to its own employees.<p>Are Microsoft employees allowed to use Firefox and Chrome internally on a daily basis or is it permitted only for UI tests?<p>Is there an (un)official internal policy on this? If it is not enforced then I guess they only care about it when money is involved. Not sure how I should feel in that case.
It's Microsoft, what did you expect?<p>This is a company that makes products that spit in the user's face and the users still happily continue to get disrespected again and again.
I'm not sure what the issue is. Google pushes Chrome when going to google.com.<p>Also, I'm not getting the same results as OP. So, this might not be pushed out everywhere?
Whenever I'm asked by friends or family to fix their computers for free, I make sure to install Linux + Brave + Qwant for browsing.<p>Most times it works because they just use youtube, facebook and stuff on the browser and runs for years without troubling me again.<p>Other times it doesn't work because "reasons" and they won't dare to trouble me again since that is all that I install.<p>In either case, neither bother me again.
Most of us pirates and hacker types use Yandex or Baidu these days. We get MUCH BETTER quality searches there than the US search engines. And yes, I'm located in the US.<p>The ONLY problems we have are local-to-us searches. Then again, you're better off with a yellow pages/business phonebook than hoping that scroogle will give you what you ask for.
This seems like a gag that wasn't intended for production. Like an inside joke for an internal app used by MS only, which was then forgotten about when converting the system to be public-facing. QA happened to not run this code path (most likely), or overlooked it due to lack of awareness of antitrust law and lack of anticipating the bad vibes.
Search Engines are not designed to give you the truth. They are designed to give you the result you wanted to find.<p>The linked article is a good example: the author was looking for a result from Bing which they could write a florid article about, and Bing obliged.
Honestly, I don't believe this. I know we all get a different search experience, so just because mine is different, doesn't mean author sees the same, but this is so far from what I am seeing and what seems reasonable by any stretch of the imagination.<p>For what it's worth, on Edge, I see a large banner ad for Edge (no need to change browser), top search result is "download google Chrome" and on the side bing chat explains what the chrome browser is and suggest I go explore on google.com<p>On Chrome, I see the same, only the add is "Try edge now".<p>I don't think this is worse than what Google used to do against Firefox (where they'd advertise Google Chrome in a spot not reserved for advertisement, if you where merely visiting from Firefox. Although in fairness, they once upon a time advertised Firefox to IE users in a similar fashion)