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Framework Laptop 16 Deep Dive – Enclosure

307 pointsby crthplalmost 2 years ago

31 comments

wpwpwpwalmost 2 years ago
Great that in some months there will be a high-end laptop that you don't have to throw in the garbage bin once a ram chip fries. High expectations.
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buildbotalmost 2 years ago
Good detail hear about the process if making the case - really interesting to read.<p>Injection molding semi-liquid magnesium seems…quite difficult to say the least!<p>Tangentially, I wish there was some online resources for learning how best design for manufacture for things like laptops and cases.<p>Contract CNC fabrication is really inexpensive these days until you need 10 iterations to fix your dumb mistakes.
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hellcowalmost 2 years ago
This case looks great. Love that we have replaceable graphics on this one.<p>I’m most excited for the ortholinear keyboard attachment. That makes it a must-buy for me, since after switching to a Kinesis Advantage I just can’t type on a staggered layout anymore.
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stavrosalmost 2 years ago
I really love my Framework. I love that I can hack it (I made a Yubikey adapter so I could always have it inserted: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.stavros.io&#x2F;posts&#x2F;making-a-security-key-for-the-framework-laptop&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.stavros.io&#x2F;posts&#x2F;making-a-security-key-for-the-f...</a>), I love that I can trivially repair any component that breaks, and it feels great as well, it&#x27;s very light and solid.<p>The only issues I have with it is battery life (though I have the battery set to charge to 70% max, which leaves a lot on the table), and the fact that Intel processors heat up very easily.<p>I really hope Intel and AMD get their shit together and release a processor as efficient as Apple silicon, I don&#x27;t want to end up using my MacBook more than my Framework.
accrualalmost 2 years ago
I thought this line was interesting:<p>&gt; with no externally visible fasteners<p>I wonder if it was easier or thinner to do that way, or if it was a deliberate design choice for a more minimal appearance.<p>Personally I don&#x27;t mind seeing fasteners. After swapping LCDs on my old Thinkpads a couple times, I stopped replacing the screw covers and embraced one fewer step for future maintenance.
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acyoualmost 2 years ago
Me and many of my friends all have zombie Frankenstein desktops that perfectly illustrate why the Framework laptop both does and doesn&#x27;t make sense.<p>I can understand why people with money to burn might not understand the limitations of trying to make a modular architecture work over the long term. Back in the day, dropping in an SSD represented a massive, relatively inexpensive upgrade. But, a desktop has cross-compatibility and flexibility primarily afforded by its massive size and weight. I&#x27;m not convinced these sorts of cross compatible upgrades will continue to surface into the future. And especially not on a laptop&#x2F;mobile form factor.<p>Now, my desktop&#x27;s IO ports are 2&#x2F;3 fried. Its memory, motherboard, CPU, GPU, OS and hard drive are hopelessly outdated. It will never make sense to meaningfully upgrade it, upgrade would mean wholesale replacement of everything. I could keep the case and the CPU cooler, big whoop.
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cowpigalmost 2 years ago
I find the battery life on my framework 13 really bad (ubuntu installed).<p>There&#x27;s some issue where the battery drains fairly quickly in suspend which requires enabling &quot;deep sleep&quot; mode, but it still drains a lot faster than other laptops I&#x27;ve had.<p>And then the battery life in general isn&#x27;t very good; I&#x27;d say ~2 hours at full brightness with some video streaming mixed in with normal browsing.<p>I wonder if that&#x27;s the same experience other people have? And whether the 16 will have better battery life?
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kccqzyalmost 2 years ago
I don&#x27;t know if magnesium is a common choice for computer enclosures, but one of the few examples of magnesium that I immediately recall (besides Surface) is a NeXT computer that went up in flames: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;simson.net&#x2F;ref&#x2F;1993&#x2F;cubefire.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;simson.net&#x2F;ref&#x2F;1993&#x2F;cubefire.html</a>
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rfwhytealmost 2 years ago
Still waiting for the other shoe to drop with a pricing announcement. I keep getting almost excited about the Framework 16&quot;, but then I&#x27;m remember it&#x27;s probably going to be well over $2500USD for a decently specced model (without a GPU even) and my excitement quickly dissipates.
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moondevalmost 2 years ago
You are really doing a good job convincing me I need a third framework
RGammaalmost 2 years ago
Give it a trackpoint and it&#x27;s mine!
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d0100almost 2 years ago
Is there any possibility of having another style of keyboard?<p>I&#x27;m still looking for a notebook without a chicklet keyboard
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mouse_almost 2 years ago
Given the whole idea here is total user freedom for ports and I&#x2F;O expandability, it bothers me that I cannot get this with an SD card slot, a feature that comes standard on newer macbook pros.
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butzalmost 2 years ago
Are we at the point where buying and assembling a laptop, like building a desktop PC, can be done by any enthusiast?
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adad95almost 2 years ago
they just need to make a touchscreen display to have me all in
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Paul_Salmost 2 years ago
No ARM option? Also, the battery compartment is tiny. Put the two together and I&#x27;m guessing this is not going to run for long.<p>Love the idea though. If I ever buy a laptop again it will be one of those.
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m3kw9almost 2 years ago
The picture at the end shows the laptops shadow on its left made it look like the laptop had a cheap shape. You can’t hVe sharp shadows like that on a photo
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kibwenalmost 2 years ago
Surprised to learn that magnesium is lighter than aluminum. Is it also more expensive? There must be some reason people still mostly use aluminum.
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midoridenshaalmost 2 years ago
What what&#x27;s been going on the news the last few days, maybe the term &quot;deep dive&quot; isn&#x27;t the best choice here.
_nalplyalmost 2 years ago
Magnesium is flammable. Does anyone know if a lithium battery fire could light up the enclosure?
langsoul-comalmost 2 years ago
Seems cool, if it&#x27;s as good as Dell xps 15 range with graphics card then I&#x27;ll get one.
qingcharlesalmost 2 years ago
Would there be any galvanic reaction having aluminium connected to magnesium?
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shinyogrealmost 2 years ago
Still no trackpoint.
yumrajalmost 2 years ago
Any ETA for 16” ?
lumb63almost 2 years ago
I’m strongly considering buying a Framework 16 when they come out. But with all the hype they’re generating, I feel certain that I and many others have to be disappointed. It can’t live up to it.
iceporteralmost 2 years ago
is i7-1370p faster than m2 pro 10 cpu?
hypeateialmost 2 years ago
&quot;Deep dive&quot; too soon...
PDTao5Q2TMaTp7Ualmost 2 years ago
I like the self repair options, but the attachments are just dongles in another form factor
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Gordonjcpalmost 2 years ago
Is that really the best phrasing for the title, today? Like, particularly today?
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mrtranscendencealmost 2 years ago
Apropos of nothing, I learned (thanks to a recent Linus Tech Tips video) that Framework&#x27;s DIY Edition laptops are preassembled for QA and then disassembled prior to shipping. I found that amusing. Not sure I could buy a DIY model knowing that.
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KRAKRISMOTTalmost 2 years ago
See also<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;starlabs.systems&#x2F;pages&#x2F;starfighter" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;starlabs.systems&#x2F;pages&#x2F;starfighter</a>
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