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Black Holes might not exist after all, new study shows

4 pointsby zimbu668almost 2 years ago

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eesmithalmost 2 years ago
This is a copy of <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;uncnewsarchive.unc.edu&#x2F;2014&#x2F;09&#x2F;23&#x2F;carolinas-laura-mersini-houghton-shows-black-holes-exist&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;uncnewsarchive.unc.edu&#x2F;2014&#x2F;09&#x2F;23&#x2F;carolinas-laura-me...</a> , which it gives as a source. That is titled &quot;Carolina’s Laura Mersini-Houghton shows that black holes do not exist&quot;.<p>That source (unlike this one) gives a date - from 2014. So, not a new study.<p>The only publications mentioned are <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;arXiv:1406.1525" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;arXiv:1406.1525</a> (&quot;Backreaction of Hawking Radiation on a Gravitationally Collapsing Star I: Black Holes?&quot;) and <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;arXiv:1409.1837" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;arXiv:1409.1837</a> (&quot;Back-reaction of the Hawking radiation flux on a gravitationally collapsing star II&quot;).<p>Google Scholar lists 72 paper siting the first one: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scholar.google.com&#x2F;scholar?cites=14029430788668444003" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scholar.google.com&#x2F;scholar?cites=1402943078866844400...</a> . Oh, and it was later published in Phys Lett B. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencedirect.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;article&#x2F;pii&#x2F;S0370269314006686?via%3Dihub" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencedirect.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;article&#x2F;pii&#x2F;S037026931...</a><p>Picking one of them includes this paper as part of: &quot;Regular collapse models where the black hole singularity is replaced by some smooth geometry have a long history. The leitmotiv of these models is the attempt to understand issues related to the Hawking information loss paradox on an effective background spacetime capturing the idea that black hole singularities must be resolved by quantum gravity effects.&quot; - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;1512.04566.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;pdf&#x2F;1512.04566.pdf</a><p>Also, FWIW, the three other HN articles from anomalien.com are:<p>* Google-Earther discovers excavated “alien base”, airstrip in Antarctica<p>* Meditation shown to slow aging of brain<p>* The KGB Had a Classified Information Exchange Program with Extraterrestrials<p>While that does not detract from the <i>paper</i>, they are the ones who came up with the title shown here on HN.
chaimanmeowalmost 2 years ago
Interesting, I&#x27;d never been aware of this topic, which seems to underlie the UNC profs conclusion:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Black_hole_information_paradox" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Black_hole_information_paradox</a><p>Clicking through the relevant wiki reference: &quot;How do black holes destroy information and why is that a problem?&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;backreaction.blogspot.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;08&#x2F;how-do-black-holes-destroy-information.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;backreaction.blogspot.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;08&#x2F;how-do-black-holes...</a>
beardywalmost 2 years ago
Isn&#x27;t it a step from black holes not forming how we think they do - to them not existing?
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ClassyJacketalmost 2 years ago
So what did those scientists capture an image of recently?
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