Did they know in advance that they were having problems?<p>Edit:<p>Answer: Yes<p><i>... the crew initiated a go around due to a unsafe nose gear indication, climbed to 4000 feet and entered a hold to work the checklists. After working the checklists the crew declared emergency and requested emergency services on stand by. The aircraft performed a low approach to runway 36L, positioned for another approach to runway 36L and landed without nose gear extended at 08:54L (12:54Z) about 12 minutes after the second go around and about 30 minutes after the first go around.</i>
>>He said they were told the Federal Aviation Administration has a hold on the plane so nothing can move on it or from it.<p>And then they wonder why people try to take their bags during an emergency off boarding.... Because they know they will not see it for a long time if ever again.<p>Stupid policy
Wow! Phenomenal piloting skills. In the 2nd video on the page taken by a passenger during landing, you can hear the plane balanced on the rear wheels for 12 seconds before touching down the nose. Impressive!
What's with them putting "a hold" on all of the passengers possessions?<p>Like, that's leaving people without their wallets (aka id, money) and so on. Sounds like they may not get it back for an unknown period of time (weeks, months?) either.
Non-USA resident here. Can someone explain all the four-letter news station names to me? Why not brand them with something more memorable / locally nuanced?
It's cool how they wait as long as they can before gently placing the nose on the runway. So much smoother and quieter than I anticipated. Delta owes these pilots an off-duty drink!
Aviation Herald always has great coverage on incidents like these <a href="https://avherald.com/h?article=50b0742c&opt=0" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://avherald.com/h?article=50b0742c&opt=0</a> . Glad nobody got hurt!
Those Delta 717s (which are actually just rebadged MD-95s) are the oldest fleet of airframes in use today on US domestic routes, having been acquired from the AirTran bankruptcy nearly 20 years ago. I suspect this will be the beginning of the end for them, as they are out of production for years now.<p>Edit: that is indeed the case <a href="https://simpleflying.com/delta-retirements-aircraft/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://simpleflying.com/delta-retirements-aircraft/</a>
I wonder if it recently ran over a wheel chock, deforming the NLG spray deflector causing the nose wheel to refuse to deploy. A similar incident happened in 2001. <a href="https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20010809-0" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20010809-...</a><p>NTSB report (pdf): <a href="https://reports.aviation-safety.net/2001/20010809-0_B712_N2417F.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://reports.aviation-safety.net/2001/20010809-0_B712_N24...</a><p>Current incident: <a href="https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/316147" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/316147</a><p>This plane's deets:<p>Boeing 717-2BD (derived from MD-80)<p>model year 2000<p>ser 55017<p>reg N955AT<p>leaser Wells Fargo<p>As an immediate stop gap, I think the FAA should issue an AD for the 717/MD-80 family that should rough front gear noises, underpowered response, or rolling sluggishness occur, ground crews should inspect the nose gear's NLG spray deflector for damage prior to any takeoff. For anyone unfamiliar, the deflector is thing that trails behind the nose wheel that limits FOD and water ingestion into MD-80's tail-mounted engines. Wing-mounted engines generally don't have this problem unless they're located near wing roots.
> NTSB investigating the runway landing of a Boeing 712 without the nose gear extended at Charlotte/Douglas International airport in Charlotte, North Carolina.<p>It's difficult to trust a news source that can't properly identify an airframe model in an article about an airplane crash. As far as I can as a tell, Boeing has never produced a model 712, it appears what the plane in question is some variant of the 717[1] but that's only a guess as I'm not an expert in the field.<p>[1] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_717" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_717</a>
First, pilots should be commended. 101 (or 104) souls were saved.<p>This is an almost 23 year old plane. Even with checks and maintenance, was age a factor?
why don't they land on the tail instead of the nose?<p>Seems a lot less risky to drag the back than scrape the front - which can flip the plane<p>Is it simply the center of gravity? (engines look like they're behind)
In 15-20 years we will have helper drone(s) incorporated in each aircraft that can fly off and provide an outside scan of the craft, perhaps even perform minor repairs.