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The moral behavior of ethics professors: A replication-extension (2018)

27 pointsby pcfwikalmost 2 years ago

8 comments

lincon127almost 2 years ago
Reading the study (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sci-hub.se&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;doi.org&#x2F;10.1080&#x2F;09515089.2019.1587912" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sci-hub.se&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;doi.org&#x2F;10.1080&#x2F;09515089.2019.158...</a>) the questions don&#x27;t sound overly morally charged. They&#x27;re certainly what I&#x27;d imagine a normal person may find moral questions, but are otherwise fairly middling in terms of moral impact. Other than vegetarianism, I&#x27;d say many of the don&#x27;t have moral weight, at least not how they were asked. And even if you had considered them moral, it would only be from a deontological, or possibly virtue, ethics perspective.<p>The behaviour is a little more damning, but they only show evidence from two different scenarios. One of those scenarios had to do with charity and once again I feel like donating to charity is not overly morally charged. And if it is, it&#x27;s certainly not the way they presented it.
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canjobearalmost 2 years ago
If I were hiring someone to do a job requiring major ethical judgment, exposure to academic thinking on ethics would be immediately disqualifying. My experience is that it is corrupting: it equips a student with a vast array of theories they can use to justify anything.
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generalizationsalmost 2 years ago
As a philosophy&#x2F;theology prof of mine once pointed out, ethics training doesn’t make one moral; it merely makes one an ethicist.
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Nasrudithalmost 2 years ago
I have observed a similar effect for constitutional lawyers. There are many whose ethics make it abundantly clear that they pursued the field not out of a desire to defend rights but how to justify abuses and find loopholes.
dlkfalmost 2 years ago
&gt; empirically investigated if philosophy professors engaged with ethics on a professional basis behave any morally better or, at least, more consistently with their expressed values than do non-ethicist professors<p>The first investigation is just begging the question. The whole point of moral philosophy is that how to live is an open question.<p>The second investigation sounds more interesting, but it doesn’t prove much either. ”Knowing that” and ”knowing how” are different. Doctors smoke more than the baseline.
Emma_Goldmanalmost 2 years ago
I am not confident in this study.<p>Anyone who has studied in the area knows that there&#x27;s self-sorting by field, which runs, from most to least conservative: Ethics &lt; political philosophy &lt; political theory. Most &#x27;activist&#x27; philosophers are in politics and sociology departments, not philosophy departments. In both cases the tendency runs from the most abstract and rationalist, to the most concrete and political.<p>The study also begs the question about what is and is not moral. It finds that professional ethicists judge that not keeping in contact with one&#x27;s mother is less morally reprehensible than do other academics. And, on the strength of this and other, similar judgements, conclude that non-ethicist academics have more stringent moral beliefs. Well - maybe the ethicists are right? Whether greater &#x27;leniency&#x27; or &#x27;stringency&#x27; is appropriate in any given case is relative to one&#x27;s ethical beliefs, not a scientific given to be assumed at the outset of the study.
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lordgrenvillealmost 2 years ago
There&#x27;s an old joke about a professor of moral philosophy caught cheating on his wife. When asked how his conduct suits his professional title, he shrugs and says, &quot;And if I taught mathematics, would I have to be a triangle?&quot;
verisimialmost 2 years ago
Becoming ethical, letting reason permeate throughout one&#x27;s life, is a job for the individual.<p>If someone deigns to explain to me the moral implications of this and that, I have to ask - what special abilities do they have? How do they know the truth better than I do?<p>If someone believes they know what another adult ought to do, that, to me, would be an indication that they don&#x27;t really have much of a clue at all!