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Why yewtu.be was down: Data loss after being shut down by Oracle Cloud

226 pointsby nouryqtalmost 2 years ago

17 comments

dredmorbiusalmost 2 years ago
For those not familiar with it, yewtu.be is an Invididous instance, where Invidious is an alternate front-end to YouTube, similar in spirit to Nitter (Twitter), Teddit (Reddit), the late Bibliogram (InstagramProxiTok, and more. Another YouTube front-end is Piped. It&#x27;s possible to use public instances of many of these, or to self-host your own.<p>There are browser extensions such as LibRedirect which will automatically, well, redirect requests to these alternatives, with extensive configurability by the user.<p>&lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;libredirect&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;addons.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;firefox&#x2F;addon&#x2F;libredirect&#x2F;</a>&gt;<p>YewTu.be went offline last week amidst news that Google were cracking down on YouTube viewers employing adblocking.<p>As to benefits of Invidious and Piped front-ends:<p>- No subscription required.<p>- Less data exposure to YouTube &#x2F;Google itself.<p>- Lighter website &#x2F; improved UI&#x2F;UX.<p>- One small way of registering dissatisfaction to YouTube for dark patterns &#x2F; user-hostile site practices.<p>Invidious: &lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;invidious.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;invidious.io&#x2F;</a>&gt; &lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Invidious" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Invidious</a>&gt;<p>Piped: &lt;<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;TeamPiped&#x2F;Piped">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;TeamPiped&#x2F;Piped</a>&gt;
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arun-mani-jalmost 2 years ago
If you like Invidious, NewPipe but want something for desktop or browser in general - check out Piped - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;TeamPiped&#x2F;Piped">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;TeamPiped&#x2F;Piped</a><p>So basically it is a way to use YouTube with a proxy server in between. Quoting directly from LibreTube (an Android app based on Piped) -<p>&gt; With NewPipe, the extraction is done locally on your phone, and all the requests sent towards YouTube&#x2F;Google are done directly from the network you&#x27;re connected to, which doesn&#x27;t use a middleman server in between. Therefore, Google can still access information such as the user&#x27;s IP address. Aside from that, subscriptions can only be stored locally.<p>&gt; LibreTube takes this one step further and proxies all requests via Piped (which uses the NewPipeExtractor). This prevents Google servers from accessing your IP address or any other personal data.<p>&gt; Apart from that, Piped allows syncing your subscriptions between LibreTube and Piped, which can be used on desktop too.<p>You can also self host it or use an instance like <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;piped.video&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;piped.video&#x2F;</a>
daneel_walmost 2 years ago
I don&#x27;t want to come off as an apologist for Oracle or the OCI product, but I can&#x27;t help to wonder if there&#x27;s more to the story than just &quot;this provider will randomly ban accounts without any reason&quot;.<p>The only real &quot;without any reason&quot; I&#x27;m aware of is free tier infra running on an account that hasn&#x27;t upgraded to paid tenancy. &quot;Always-Free&quot; resources belonging to an <i>unpaid tenancy</i> can be deallocated without notice in order to provide resources for a <i>paid tenancy</i>.
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phendrenad2almost 2 years ago
It&#x27;s nice that alt tech is trying out all of these bottom-tier cloud providers and posting results. Now I know which ones to add to my &quot;avoid at all costs&quot; list (which is already quite long).
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xystalmost 2 years ago
&gt; It is known that this provider will randomly ban accounts without any reason.<p>and yet this site was still using them prior to ban hammer because “it probably won’t happen to me”<p>I will always say this: fuck Oracle. Fuck Larry Ellison. Any person or company that uses their products despite knowing the shit the founder and company has done deserves any consequences
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haolezalmost 2 years ago
On a side note, I&#x27;m a CTO and I&#x27;m being seduced by Oracle&#x27;s sales people due to their extremely low prices in my region. I&#x27;m on Azure and it&#x27;s getting expensive. Can someone with actual experience using Oracle as a cloud provider chime in?
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hedoraalmost 2 years ago
It&#x27;s interesting that they had two different accounts specifically in case one got borked, and then Oracle simultaneously closed both without warning.<p>As far as I can tell, the site is just a youtube frontend, so it&#x27;s unclear if this was some sort of pseudo-DMCA thing, or if Oracle Cloud just sometimes intentionally scorched-earths paying customers.
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nisaalmost 2 years ago
What is the appeal from these YouTube frontends? I came to really dislike them because links are broken after a while because these sites don&#x27;t live very long and the video data itself is still streamed by YouTube? I don&#x27;t get it.
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jimjimjimalmost 2 years ago
I happily pay for youtube premium. I find that the content available is much more enjoyable than netflix and the others. If I have a couple of hours to kill it&#x27;s probably going to be spent watching youtube series rather than browsing netflix.<p>And I like supporting the content creators that I watch. Rather than just freeloading.
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2halmost 2 years ago
I tried signing up for Oracle Cloud and got the below message. After that I took the exact same card and signed up with 4 other providers. Fuck you Oracle.<p>&gt; Error processing transaction<p>&gt; We&#x27;re unable to complete your sign up. Common sign up errors are due to: (a) Using prepaid cards. Oracle only accepts credit card and debit cards (b) Intentionally or unintentionally masking one&#x27;s location or identity
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Remmyalmost 2 years ago
I recently moved to TubeSync and Jellyfin for YouTube videos. TubeSync will make a copy of the channel locally while applying Sponsorblock filters directly to the video file.<p>It checks nightly for any new videos on the channel and Jellyfin sends me a notification when a new video is ready to watch.
srmarmalmost 2 years ago
I&#x27;m not really sure what the site does, looks like a cleanly designed proxy for youtube?<p>If it&#x27;s a service that&#x27;s piggybacking on another site there&#x27;s a good chance it&#x27;ll get shut down at some point. I get the feeling the author of the post is a little naïve that this comes as a surprise, that their two accounts with Oracle were linked and banned in unison came as a surprise and there wasn&#x27;t a backup.<p>However anyone who uses a site like this knows it&#x27;s easy come&#x2F;easy go. You get what you pay for and appreciate the time, effort and money the webmaster has put in and make your own arrangements to save anything of importance to your local machine.
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eur0paalmost 2 years ago
Every time something about invidious and piped instances is brought up, YT Premium shills come out of the woodwork like GTP4-powered bots
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oogabooga13almost 2 years ago
Of all the streaming options out there (Netflix, MAX, insert-your-service here) I pay for Youtube Premium. Has paid for itself many times over, especially with YT Music which is really good -it pulls from YT so I can get those rare songs&#x2F;mixes that some individual just decided to upload from their personal collection. Also can download pretty much any video for offline vewiewing in the app.<p>The &quot;free&quot; movie selection is also really good (no ad&#x27;s in premium). It&#x27;s curated (read not endless fluff) and I spend less time thumbing through the damn menus (looking at you Netflix) and just watching stuff.<p>As an example YT Movies&gt;Free <i>just</i> released James Cameron&#x27;s Doc: Deepsea Challenge right after the Titan implosion. This type of realtime, zeitgeist curation happens all the time in their &quot;free movie section&quot; If you are starting from 0 in the submersible space great way to break the ice and start to grasp what that type of exploration entails. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ZZD_nbS1_II">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ZZD_nbS1_II</a><p>Been with them since the Google Play Music days, just a happy customer.
pyaambalmost 2 years ago
Question:<p>If I come up with a clever tweet and then post it, does twitter own that data? what if i posted it to a middleware like a browser extension that then posts to twitter but also makes it accessible on an ipfs feed?
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isoprophlexalmost 2 years ago
Whoa, &quot;Oracle Cloud&quot;, i have no experience with their services, but judging from their enterprise products that sounds like the grossest possible thing to run a personal project on...
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morkalorkalmost 2 years ago
So what does the internet on a desktop look like in the next 3, 5 and 10 years? Every site requires an account and logging in, if not an app install? Instead of phones becoming like computers, computers are becoming like phones.
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