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French Assembly to allow remote police surveillance via phone cameras and mics

116 pointsby mysterypiealmost 2 years ago

15 comments

hoppyhoppy2almost 2 years ago
See also<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36621757">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36621757</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36616037">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36616037</a>
Synaesthesiaalmost 2 years ago
So, this is why Edward Snowden takes out the microphones out of his phones manually.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.indiatoday.in&#x2F;technology&#x2F;features&#x2F;story&#x2F;when-edward-snowden-gets-a-new-phone-to-protect-his-privacy-this-is-what-he-does-1834292-2021-07-29" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.indiatoday.in&#x2F;technology&#x2F;features&#x2F;story&#x2F;when-edw...</a>
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mock-possumalmost 2 years ago
Man are they really going to go through with this??<p>I’m not even sure what I would do if I was in that situation, where my own government decided it was okay to spy on everyone that way. I’d probably be eying the nearest border.
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kkfxalmost 2 years ago
FAR more concerning is <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.senat.fr&#x2F;leg&#x2F;tas22-148.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.senat.fr&#x2F;leg&#x2F;tas22-148.pdf</a> page 43, second half, article 2212 first, second and fifth paragraph, a complete rewrite of a national defense law who add the possibility INSTEAD of just ordering domestic enterprises to prioritize war-related productions adding the power to requisition ANYTHING, private citizens properties AND their own bodies, just on a decree by Council of Ministers bypassing ANY other law.<p>Curiously so far only few extreme left and extreme right sites have pointed that out loud.<p>Meanwhile at the Parliament a nice intervention to &quot;limit surveillance power&quot; for connected sex toys <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;Ugobernalicis&#x2F;status&#x2F;1676639024184786958" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;Ugobernalicis&#x2F;status&#x2F;1676639024184786958</a><p>Welcome to the Summer 2023.
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DeathArrowalmost 2 years ago
Next, they should make it unlawful to not carry a smartphone with you.
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hans_castorpalmost 2 years ago
Didn&#x27;t France also make using encryption illegal a while ago?
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cubefoxalmost 2 years ago
No mention of how this works on a technical level. Are they requiring phone manufacturers to put in a backdoor if they want to sell phones in France?
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HashThisalmost 2 years ago
Why does Apple (iPhone) and Google (android OS) enable this?
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thereisanewmrktalmost 2 years ago
Can&#x27;t wait for the market to adapt with covers on the phone camera.
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finikytoualmost 2 years ago
we had riots in france. the government let the riot go without doing much then they lied about the number saying it was a few thousands while anyone with a statistic 101 can tell its a blatant lie. last time we had similar people breaking everything at a soccer game and the ministry of interior told us it was english fans...<p>a while ago we had protest &#x27;yellow vest&#x27; and protest against retirement age the government used police to massively destroy the people that were protesting many were left with lifelong disabilities. then we had the covid confinement where we had to have a paper to go out and average citizen where hunted and assaulted for not respecting it. and now we have people rioting and breaking businesses, hurting others in the streets with nothing to stop them.<p>it just doesnt make sense. to me it sounds like we are becoming a dictature where lies are pushed as facts, riots are pushed by the state and entertained to scare the average citizen, surveillance state is controlling us and any kind of protest is severely dealt with. france is becoming scary under macron. just like canada with trudeau, those two guys, young leaders that corrupt journalist pushed and love even tho they represent everything wrong in our country, those two &#x27;modern leaders&#x27; they used wokism and green washing to move us further away from real democracies like switzerland. now we are a pink dictature.
orwinalmost 2 years ago
Not surprised, it&#x27;s a continuation of what happening since 2019 (it started a bit earlier, in 2009 to be exact, was reinforced in 2015, but each time with the intent of &#x27;not going further&#x27; for both Sarkozy and Hollande).<p>I&#x27;ve discussed that with ecologists and union workers&#x2F;socialists extensively. I&#x27;m not victim blaming, and some were in agreement, but it was obvious that if we accepted undue policing power to investigate Muslims and anarchists, or even royalists, soon enough the state would turn against any threat to its ideology, and the ecologists saw that recently. And once again, the state was smart, and only rural ecologists were illegally detained, the student&#x2F;bicycles ecologists were left alone. Niemöller still isn&#x27;t studied enough in Europe it seems.
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septunealmost 2 years ago
Will listen-and-watch orders be send using operator cell-network or in-band using any OS-API through data-network ?
2rsfalmost 2 years ago
Israel has a somewhat similar law, as expected it didn&#x27;t end up so well<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.timesofisrael.com&#x2F;israel-police-use-of-nso-spyware-set-to-be-probed-by-knesset-subcommittee&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.timesofisrael.com&#x2F;israel-police-use-of-nso-spywa...</a>
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ur-whalealmost 2 years ago
As if there was already not enough reasons to flee that god-forsaken place (see recent riots, one example among many), now parliament is busy manufacturing new ones.<p>Amazing.
chaostheoryalmost 2 years ago
News like this further make the case that the GPRD is mainly protectionist legislation that mainly benefits EU corporations. The EU doesn’t really care about the privacy of their citizens regardless of the virtue signaling.
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