I wish the folks who clearly do not like Google would just not use their products instead of spamming every thread about how they will kill the product, true or not.<p>——<p>Anyway,<p>It’s not clear which model they’re using for this. I assume whatever Bard is using, but who knows. This is relevant because depending on the intended experience the latency will matter.<p>Overall it’s not a bad idea, but I do wonder what the monetization path will be for Google. I imagine this will be part of workspace. Perhaps they will add more tiers to include these offerings.<p>I wish they shared a bit about how this will be differentiated from Bard. Is this simply a new front end to Bard? It’s really an open question. I haven’t seen many products that use LLMs that are better than the prompt response UX.<p>The most interesting thing about this blog post is the “source grounding.” I’m curious if there’s actual engineering behind it, or is it prompt tweaking contextualized behind the scenes on a given doc.
Google Docs has been going strong for almost 2 decades, longer than the iPhone. NotebookLM is another way to read your Google Docs, with LLM assistance. If NotebookLM gets killed off, you still have your Google Docs and can read them with your eyeballs or some other LLM.<p>HN loves to shit on Google for their loose trail-and-error approach to product releases, but Google Docs is evidently not one of those loose products.
I love this as a product idea.<p>I can't sign up (because I'm outside the US). I think I could build a local-only version with a local LLM possibly local datasources that would do a pretty good job.<p>Local LLMs are sufficiently powerful for query expansion techniques so the capability gap there to GPT4/Bard isn't a problem.<p>They are definitely behind on generative capabilities, but since I'm unable to use the product it is unclear how important that is in this use-case. If there is a video I'd appreciate a link!<p>I wonder how popular a local version of something like that would be?
“ A key difference between NotebookLM and traditional AI chatbots is that NotebookLM lets you “ground” the language model in your notes and sources. Source-grounding effectively creates a personalized AI that’s versed in the information relevant to you. Starting today, you can ground NotebookLM in specific Google Docs that you choose, and we’ll be adding additional formats soon.”<p>While it sounds promising, the blog post should have explained the obvious thing: how is source-grounding different from giving a document to a model and generate insights?
"We are amazing though leaders and AI product developers"<p>"We created this amazing tool that will change the world and is awesome and everything"<p>"But you need to sign up for the waitlist"<p>"you need to be in the US"<p>"you need to sign NDA"<p>Amazing.
> Google: <i>"Look, we're capable, but just beta-test this sh&t so we can make a product that will definitely overshadow our little contribution, okay? We need the product, we need the money. You'll get a nice little badge on your profile to signal your interest with your peers. This is open and responsible AI."</i><p>Respectfully, nobody gives a f&ck. The actual way you do it is at least publish a paper(or butchered code) or make the product accessible to all.(Or to a number of people that scales proportionally with your claims of greatness). You cannot do either of those? Well that smells of trying to be opportunistic, doesn't it? If i recall, OpenAI in it's infancy with the GPT* family at least published some papers (which Google also used to do, by the way), then they built upon that to eventually release a product. Yes the product was never free at the beginning nor very publicized, because it wasn't advertised to be the holy grail of anything. To sum up my opinion on this matter: you can never truly scale and innovate with >only releasing a lobotomized product< or >only releasing a paper with no visible applications<. You need a little balance between sparking interest and satisfying the hype you give about the product(if any).*
Dear Google, you've burned me so many times after I've fallen in love with your products. I have experienced the cold sting of disappointment far too many times. When you abruptly discontinue services like Google Buzz and Google Reader, you leave me stranded with no reasonable alternatives. This pattern of abandonment has plagued our relationship, instilling in me a sense of apprehension each time you introduce a new product.
Is there this, but with something like Joplin? I couldn't find anything.<p>edit: Someone did this for Joplin: <a href="https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/plugin-jarvis-ai-assistant-v0-5-1-9-7-23/28316/8" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/plugin-jarvis-ai-assistant...</a>
Do any of the "chat with your documents" type applications have Google Drive integration?<p>Because it's unlikely that Google will take away the API for Drive. But an experimental project like this could easily go up in a puff of red mist.
Anyone else notice that if you try to signup at <a href="https://notebooklm.google.com/signup" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://notebooklm.google.com/signup</a> the chat link in the upper left leads to a discord?
very cool! was actually contemplating what it would take to build something like this for myself!<p>personal text processors are a great direction for NLP based AI!
does anyone have a link to a site that summarizes other sites?<p>sometimes I just want to know 2 or 3 main sentences about a "news" or blog post like that.<p>I developed a phobia of reading an entire website (usually about AI) and being disappointed because I wasted my time on something completely useless.
Why would I use any google service with a death countdown on its forehead? I have migrated away from Google almost completely. I can’t imagine being a product team there and having to defend product’s existence for more than a year.
This is amazing! I can't wait to post about this on Google Wave, Google Currents, Orkut, Jaiku, Google Friend Connect, and Google+, read all about it on Google Reader and Google FastFlip, chat about it with friends on Buzz, Duo, Google Talk, Hangouts, and also blog on my website made with Google Page Creator or Web Hosting on Google Drive or Google Sites. It's just so reassuring to know I can depend on the Google ecosystem of products long in to the future.