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Windows: A software engineering odyssey (2000)

180 pointsby xo5vikalmost 2 years ago

12 comments

jstanleyalmost 2 years ago
What&#x27;s crazy about this is that it sounds like the people writing the code haven&#x27;t got the slightest hope of even compiling it, let alone running it. They&#x27;re just writing code, crossing their fingers, and committing it.<p>It&#x27;s a wonder the thing ever worked at all.
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canucker2016almost 2 years ago
MarkL&#x27;s latest move - leaving Google, after changes in the VR&#x2F;AR org at Google - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;gadgets&#x2F;2023&#x2F;07&#x2F;googles-head-of-ar-software-quits-citing-unstable-commitment-and-vision&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;gadgets&#x2F;2023&#x2F;07&#x2F;googles-head-of-ar-s...</a>
LispSporks22almost 2 years ago
Can’t imagine how these Windows engineers feel about the enshitification of their baby. So much time invested into it - must be hard to see it taking this current trajectory.
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xo5vikalmost 2 years ago
Transcript of slides at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;danluu.com&#x2F;microsoft-culture&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;danluu.com&#x2F;microsoft-culture&#x2F;</a>
gigel82almost 2 years ago
Source Depot was still a thing in Office as of last year when they finally transitioned to Git. Windows started transitioning to Git 5 years ago.<p>Also, they have about 10k people working on Windows (and devices) and about 10k people working on ads nowadays (that paints a good story of priorities).<p>Source: 2nd hand from MS friends
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osullivjalmost 2 years ago
Zachary&#x27;s Show Stopper covers this ground in a very readable manner, and gives a lot of useful detail on Dave Cutler&#x27;s design ideas, and DEC VAX VMS background.
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sylensalmost 2 years ago
This has certainly whetted my appetite for a deeper dive - what&#x27;s a good book on the history of Windows (or even Microsoft), from the earliest days up until at least Windows 95?
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ForOldHackalmost 2 years ago
There are details here no one else would know. Why would there be only a single mention of Xenix, when Microsoft bet the farm on it, only to vapor it for 4+ (79 to 84) years and outsource it less than 3 years later. (87)
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lasereyes136almost 2 years ago
Another great source is Show Stopper, a book about creating Windows NT. I read it years ago, it was the first time I saw the term dog fooding to describe using what you are building as you are building it.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goodreads.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;book&#x2F;show&#x2F;1416925" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goodreads.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;book&#x2F;show&#x2F;1416925</a>
hunterjrjalmost 2 years ago
Plug for Dave Plummer&#x27;s youtube channel: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;@DavesGarage">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;@DavesGarage</a><p>Dave was an engineer on NT and creator of Task Manager and zip folders. Lots of interesting stories and anecdotes from that period on that channel.
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yakubinalmost 2 years ago
Slide 19 doesn’t load for me.
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jamesfinlaysonalmost 2 years ago
&gt; Source control system (Windows 2000) &gt; Branch capability sorely needed, tree copies used as substitutes, so merging is a nightmare<p>Ouch, and it looks like they only had version control with branching for the last nine months of development.
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