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Stalwart All-in-One Mail Server (IMAP, JMAP, SMTP)

243 pointsby erlend_shalmost 2 years ago

19 comments

xoaalmost 2 years ago
Definitely exciting to see another very promising modern mail server option that seems to really be developing nicely. The major pain of self-hosting email for a long was ensuring delivery, but with SMTP relay services also getting quite slick that doesn&#x27;t seem as much of a blocker anymore. Also means being able to clamp down even more tightly on the mail server at the network level as well as its own security since it only needs to talk out to the relay service and nothing else. In an ideal world there&#x27;d be a real solid secure DNS and in turn full e2ee email-like standard itself, and authentication could at least be one by certs in DNS.<p>But in the meantime email still fills an important role, and perhaps enough layers of options will get us close. After the Gandi.net sellout most recently this feels like propitious timing to me, I really dislike the typical email service pricing models. Paying just for the domains and relay, both of which are trivial to swap around at will, and then otherwise having that on my own infrastructure certainly feels attractive to try firing up again at least for a handful of domains.
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nubinetworkalmost 2 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32894429">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32894429</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34992978">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34992978</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35040256">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35040256</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36757296">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36757296</a>
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maxpertalmost 2 years ago
Amazing I was just looking for a good mail server to configure for my demo. Which reminds me since you folks have mentioned LiteStream, have you tried Marmot (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;maxpert&#x2F;marmot);">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;maxpert&#x2F;marmot);</a> I recently configured Isso with Marmot to scale it out horizontally (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;maxpert.github.io&#x2F;marmot&#x2F;demo" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;maxpert.github.io&#x2F;marmot&#x2F;demo</a>). I am super curious what kind of write workload on a sub thousand people organization will have and if Marmot can help scale it horizontally without Foundation DB. I always find the the convenience of SQLite amazing.
Darilalmost 2 years ago
Congratulations! Very interesting project ! I have been running my own servers with ISPConfig with PostFix and Dovecot for many years, but this modern all-in-one solution seems better integrated and complete. As others have commented, rspamd integration would be a great addition, although I think using Proxmox Mail Gateway instead would give more control with more ease. Proxmox doesn&#x27;t need any special integration. It works like a firewall for mail.
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candiddevmikealmost 2 years ago
Anyone know how this compares to Maddy (written in Go)? Seems like Stalwart has more features just from a cursory glance
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ocdtrekkiealmost 2 years ago
Fantastic to see JMAP support right from the start!
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huslagealmost 2 years ago
Why is this not set up to filter spam out of the box? It&#x27;s not really an optional thing at this point, and writing Sieve scripts that work well is not necessarily easy.
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flipbradalmost 2 years ago
Super exciting. This may become my selfhosting project for the year ahead...
jvdvegtalmost 2 years ago
Looks nice! What kind of (server based) calendar could be used with this? Can e.g. Ldap be used for a shared&#x2F;corporate address book?
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yubioxalmost 2 years ago
Does it come with a delivery agent like procmail or maildrop? Does it use maildir or mbox or its own mailbox format?
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darkcloudsalmost 2 years ago
Looks interesting, but something I always look for, is what it doesnt do and then try to find out why, partly because I&#x27;m not up to date with all the RFC&#x27;s, so I couldnt tell straight away if those RFC&#x27;s are the latest, proposed or deprecated.
freedudealmost 2 years ago
It is new, but it would be interesting to see a list of customers using the system.<p>One concern is that Email is designed to be highly modular in the UNIX sense. Does this eliminate some of this modularity? For, instance can I still use Dovecot for IMAP, POP3 if I want?
uvestenalmost 2 years ago
Yay!<p>I’m just about to set up a couple of new domains, and was procrastinating because email. This looks perfect, something new to play with and get email set-up done at the same time :)
xmichael909almost 2 years ago
Thanks, this looks great, I hope to see a turnkey linux VM of it one day!
mzsalmost 2 years ago
some comments from the folks responsible yesterday here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36757296">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36757296</a>
ape4almost 2 years ago
It could also include POP3 and LMTP (local mail transport protocol)
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carstentralmost 2 years ago
Isn&#x27;t the major pain<p>- 24x7 running - spam - security<p>rather then proof-of-concept?
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patchtopicalmost 2 years ago
can this handle multiple email domains on the same server?<p>i.e. mary@domaina.com and mary@domainb.com as different email accounts?
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Nuxalmost 2 years ago
Very nice! Would love some docs on anti-spam though.
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