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Government URLs that don't end in .gov

155 pointsby notmysql_almost 2 years ago

24 comments

samwillisalmost 2 years ago
I think it&#x27;s particularly interesting that the US use .gov and not .gov.us (as a Brit). I&#x27;m sure there are oversights on who can acquire an inherently international .gov domain, but for example here in the UK .gov.uk domains have a strict application process [0] managed by central government.<p>It just seems to me that it would be more secure, and more reassuring to citizens and visitors that they are on the correct site it&#x27;s under a cctld that&#x27;s clearly affiliated to and managed by that government.<p>0: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gov.uk&#x2F;apply-for-and-manage-a-gov-uk-domain-name" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gov.uk&#x2F;apply-for-and-manage-a-gov-uk-domain-name</a><p>--<p>Edit: turns out .gov is exclusively for the US, not sure I feel good about that, particularly as <i>.com and .net are very much not just for the US</i>.<p>The possibility of the US government creating a .gov specifically to confuse uses in a foreign country isn&#x27;t ideal.<p>I get it, you invented the internet, but the special status you have over it is a little frustrating.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.whitehouse.gov&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2023&#x2F;02&#x2F;M-23-10-DOTGOV-Act-Guidance.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.whitehouse.gov&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2023&#x2F;02&#x2F;M-23-1...</a>
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gr33nqalmost 2 years ago
I went through the process of registering a .gov domain recently and it definitely takes a couple of months. It requires a letter of intent, wet signatures from elected official(s) on official letterhead, a phone call to a publicly listed number of an elected official, 2FA enrollment for the management of DNS&#x2F;WHOIS, and a period of time in between some of these steps for some behind-the-scenes verification to take place. Despite the many steps, I did find it relatively straightforward and appropriate given the exclusivity of the TLD. In fact, the most difficult part (that I&#x27;m still working through) is convincing management that we should make the full migration to the .gov now that we have it registered...
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topkai22almost 2 years ago
Briefly scrolling through the the list for really weird ones and “ war-on-pineapple.com” jumped out at me.<p>Turns out it’s not a USDA campaign, but is associated with a CISA campaign to explain foreign influence operations focused on divisiveness.<p>CISA produced a quite good one pager: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cisa.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;default&#x2F;files&#x2F;publications&#x2F;19_1008_cisa_the-war-on-pineapple-understanding-foreign-interference-in-5-steps.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cisa.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;default&#x2F;files&#x2F;publications&#x2F;19_100...</a><p>Sadly the domain is inactive, but they helpfully included an archive.org to show some of the additional content (how the CISA director executed a pineapple op on Twitter): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20190726194709&#x2F;https:&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;CISAKrebs&#x2F;status&#x2F;1154462806311235584" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20190726194709&#x2F;https:&#x2F;twitter.co...</a><p>And for the record- pepperoni pineapple jalapeño pizza is delicious.
captn3m0almost 2 years ago
Interesting related thing from India: the official TLDs as per the guidelines are .gov.in and .nic.in, and both are registered as a public suffix (legacy, from when the list was created).<p>However the government created a separate Section 8 company called Digital India corporation that runs a separate group of websites for Citizen Outreach called MyGov, which runs a separate subdomain for these: mygov.in. Unfortunately, they haven’t gotten around to registering it as a public suffix, so there are concerns around security (cookies are shared between completely separate sites). The public suffix list doesn’t accept contributions without authorisation anymore, so it’s unlikely to be fixed.<p>There’s also the interesting case of some government sites preferring .org.in to showcase independence from government interference- RBI, for eg (the central bank) runs at rbi.org.in.<p>I wrote a few more findings when I created a list back in 2020: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;captn3m0&#x2F;status&#x2F;1301613472615030784" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;captn3m0&#x2F;status&#x2F;1301613472615030784</a>
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seeknotfindalmost 2 years ago
We need a government root CA more than a government TLD. Domain names aren&#x27;t even the only thing we should attest.
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graypeggalmost 2 years ago
I’ve always thought it was weird that the Canadian federal government uses canada.ca almost exclusively. You see a lot of<p><pre><code> https:&#x2F;&#x2F;service-service.canada.ca&#x2F;sign-up-sinscrire.aspx </code></pre> .ca is open for registration by anyone, and people are used to seeing that TLD. Combine that with the bilingual super long domain names and every once in a while you’ll see a phishing scam like:<p><pre><code> https:&#x2F;&#x2F;service-service-canada.ca&#x2F;sign-up-sinscrire.aspx </code></pre> CIRA could set up a .gov.ca second level or something if they really wanted to keep the .ca, but I don’t think that will happen at this point.<p>It’s at least consistant in looking like a phishing scam!
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sebmellenalmost 2 years ago
<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;war-on-pineapple.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;war-on-pineapple.com</a> is purportedly owned by the Department of Homeland Security. It’s a dead link, unfortunately. What a curious domain!<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;GSA&#x2F;govt-urls&#x2F;blob&#x2F;main&#x2F;2_govt_urls_federal_only.csv">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;GSA&#x2F;govt-urls&#x2F;blob&#x2F;main&#x2F;2_govt_urls_feder...</a>
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cloudripperalmost 2 years ago
Interesting to see both the Minnesota House of Representatives and State Senate using the ccTLD of Mongolia.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.house.mn" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.house.mn</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.senate.mn" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.senate.mn</a>
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brownalmost 2 years ago
My favorite URL oddity has to be &quot;id.me&quot; for U.S. Citizen identity services.<p>Seems a bit odd to use a Montenegro domain, doesn&#x27;t it?
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remramalmost 2 years ago
I got an official email from New York State&#x27;s Office Of The Comptroller with a link to osc.state.ny.us. It came from an email address @osc.ny.gov. I don&#x27;t understand why they couldn&#x27;t use an official TLD in the URL too.
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syncsynchaltalmost 2 years ago
The most egregious of these to me is moneyfactory.com (the Bureau of Engraving &amp; Printing).<p>It reads as very low-rent considering it&#x27;s the printing press of the US Dollar. If they reached out to me I&#x27;d think it was a weak scam.
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eductionalmost 2 years ago
[makes an authoritative list of non gov federal sites so you know you can trust them even though they’re not at dot gov]<p>[puts that list at a non dot gov website]
SeanLukealmost 2 years ago
My favorite is definitely Smithsonian. They&#x27;re very, very proud that they are <i>si.edu</i>.
KolmogorovCompalmost 2 years ago
Title should state &quot;US Government...&quot;
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the_svd_doctoralmost 2 years ago
“annualcreditreport.com” is in the list but it’s not a government website. It’s run by a lovely alliance from equifax&#x2F;transunion&#x2F;experian, asking you to check the info they hold on you to avoid other people stealing money from banks.
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YPPHalmost 2 years ago
Very odd indeed. In Australia, government departments almost always use .gov.au unless there are exceptional reasons. In the States, it is .[state].gov.au, eg .nsw.gov.au.
rig666almost 2 years ago
A few years ago I was hired on at my local sheriff&#x27;s department and I was so disappointed that we did not have a dot gov domain.
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user__namealmost 2 years ago
Here are all domains, extracted: 94 army as biz cc cfm ch cn co com com de Domain name edu gov gu helenapj htm info int io me mn mobi mp ms net nl online org org pr sc tips travel tv tw us vg vi wiki ws xyz
ulrischaalmost 2 years ago
Gov is a horrible because it is exclusively for US. It would be better if all governmental intitutions in the world could have a gov domain. Much better trust and verification
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nodesocketalmost 2 years ago
tva.com. That&#x27;s gotta be worth some money now.
vladharbuzalmost 2 years ago
Always found it arbitrary that .gov is only for use by the US.
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dudeinjapanalmost 2 years ago
So every time the FBI&#x2F;CIA sets up a domain for a sting operation it has to be listed here? Seems like an Achilles&#x27; heel, no?
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xwdvalmost 2 years ago
It’d be more interesting to see a list of sites that end in .gov but aren’t government associated. I feel like the creation of such a site would involve some inside connections and shady backroom deals.
xn--cr8halmost 2 years ago
Sort of funny that the README never mentions <i>which</i> government they&#x27;re talking about. Classic USA trying to make sure everyone knows they&#x27;re the most important country in the history of planet Earth
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