Whether it was a shadowy executive cabal or a couple of overzealous minions who proposed WEI is kind of immaterial. Google has too much power to decide the fate of the Web, and no incentive not to exploit that power, and something must be done to stop it before it's too late.
"in current form" means our work on opposing Google here is not over.<p>We need to salt the ground this was grown in and make sure it never comes back.
Honestly: good.<p>The fact that it was even proposed means there elements out there pushing for this stuff. Who knows whether it was a shadowy executive team or just some out of touch developers and PMs.<p>I wish there was more to say, but the backlash was swift, fierce, and to the point.<p>Good work.
Chrome has one of the most transparent, pre-declared software delivery models on the planet.<p>This does sort of seem like the system is working as intended here. Give people enormous power, but do so in a transparent clear way with lots of review. Rather than a top down organization, this bottom up engineering allows in a lot more potential.<p>And some of the potential is bad. Do we the technical masses trust in the process, in the various discussions & checks built in to the w3c system? How much is our hunger for attention & excitement & drama fueling a mania, a craziness? 0? Maybe a tiny bit? Or is there real harm to the media cycle blow up beyond proportions to every potentially salacious idea that shows up on radar?<p>Like Alex, this was a huge deal. A huge issue. But it seemed unlikely to get far as a standard, and had barely begun review cycles, just getting some standards positions, not even getting TAG or security review requests started.<p>I really like Chrome's model, how proactive & transparent they are, so early. In contrast, most web vendors just ship stuff. Safari just shipped Private Access Tokens, which <i>are</i> Web Environment Integrity, in different name. <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36866355">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36866355</a> <a href="https://www.snellman.net/blog/archive/2023-07-25-web-integrity-api-vs-private-access-tokens/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.snellman.net/blog/archive/2023-07-25-web-integri...</a>
As if four Google engineers advanced a proposal to make sure ads on the page get served because of their own, non Google, interests.<p>"They just love ads!"
>is very much worth worrying about as a direction of travel, but not without context<p>What's the context where WEI could be seen as a positive?