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Do you avoid the news? You’re in growing company

185 pointsby lando2319almost 2 years ago

72 comments

avalysalmost 2 years ago
The single biggest problem with America today is the presentation and consumption of national news, political commentary and public policy as entertainment. The media has figured out that America is the ultimate reality TV show and they present it as such.<p>Cable TV and the internet are to blame for this. I don&#x27;t know what could be done about it. But we&#x27;d be way better off if &quot;the news&quot; was something you could watch from 7 PM - 8 PM if you were interested, or something you could read in a printed newspaper if you were really interested, and otherwise the general public could ignore it.<p>Instead we talk about the direction of the country and indeed, humanity itself, with the same care and thoughtfulness that goes into rooting for your favorite NFL team, or voting people off the island on Survivor.
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sylensalmost 2 years ago
I was recently listening to a podcast recapping a television show set in the early 2000s, where a current college aged student basically said &quot;I wish I had the experience of being a teenager in that time period - it seemed much simpler as you weren&#x27;t aware of every bad thing that was happening around the world&quot;<p>And that&#x27;s really the way it used to be. It was even better before 24 hour news networks, as your evening news would give you the stories of the day, and then you would buy the next morning&#x27;s newspaper if you wanted to read about it more in depth. Sometimes multiple newspapers if it&#x27;s a topic you really wanted to sink your teeth into. There was no need to follow the result of every individual rocket volley in the Ukraine or each individual comment from a politician.<p>As more people turn away from the news, it seems that they rely on their own smaller, informal communities to filter and signal boost the topics they really should pay attention to. Articles that get shared in a Discord catch my attention more than anything on Drudge or even Hacker News.
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brushfootalmost 2 years ago
I not only avoid it, I&#x27;ve added news sites that I used to read to my hosts list, redirecting to localhost so I can&#x27;t compulsively check them in the middle of the day anymore.<p>Personally, I think Aaron Swartz was right [1]: I feel better off, emotionally and mentally, reading a monthly magazine or an annual book than trying to absorb every tidbit of clickbait dished out by the view-driven media. Monthly content is generally more nuanced and often more actionable, and whatever social media furor accompanied each small part of it, as it developed, is omitted for being the tempest in a teapot that it was.<p>[1]: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aaronsw.com&#x2F;weblog&#x2F;hatethenews" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.aaronsw.com&#x2F;weblog&#x2F;hatethenews</a>
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ArekDymalskialmost 2 years ago
The moment you realize that news is just another form of entertainment, not a source of knowledge you&#x27;re obligated to follow, you free to stop wasting your time on it.
alberthalmost 2 years ago
I&#x27;ve completely cut out watching&#x2F;reading news, with 1 exception.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newsminimalist.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newsminimalist.com</a><p>I stumbled across it on HN sometime back.<p>Someone created an AI model to consume daily, thousands of news sources, scores the articles and lists what it&#x27;s highest scored for the day.<p>---<p>Ironically, APNews use to work this way. They provide a &quot;relevance score&quot; for every news article they published&#x2F;reported so that other outlets could use that score as a signal on what they should report on.<p>Problem is, all other news outlet are disparate for eyeballs, so everything becomes &quot;breaking news&quot; regardless of the news relevance score.
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EatingWithForksalmost 2 years ago
I wish I had local news. For example if there&#x27;s a crazy mom trying to get on the school board. Or my local towing company is owned by a person undergoing felony indictment. New businesses opening that could really use my dollars. My local shop had a 4 for 5$ sale for kombucha and I nearly missed out on it due to a lack of local news.<p>I really don&#x27;t want to know what is happening to youth in a country that is very far from me as often.
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whycomealmost 2 years ago
The definition of what &quot;the news&quot; is has become blurry... Are the articles I read on HN considered &#x27;news&#x27;? (I mean, it&#x27;s right there in the title!)<p>Is this article &#x27;news&#x27;?<p>The article talks about &#x27;traditional&#x27; sources of newspapers, NPR, MSNBC -- is there a certain type of &#x27;news&#x27; that people are starting to avoid?
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gretchalmost 2 years ago
I avoid the news because it’s often wrong (and I don’t necessarily blame them, because they are reporting with incomplete information as it appears).<p>I find that it’s much more productive to just ask “what happened 2 weeks ago?”. All the unverified trash gets filtered out at that point. All the outrage bait has simmered down.
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jcfreialmost 2 years ago
The problem is that people don&#x27;t just ignore the mainstream news media. A lot of them also turn to fringe channels that peddle an alternative view of the world that&#x27;s more affirmative of their own worldview - without being more truthful. It&#x27;s going to be a huge challenge to every democracy because people will fundamentally disagree about basic facts.
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ineptechalmost 2 years ago
I feel like the news used to focus on things we didn&#x27;t know, and has shifted to telling us what we enjoy hearing. A great deal of it is in the form &quot;&lt;person you dislike&gt; did &lt;exactly what you&#x27;d think they&#x27;d do&gt;&quot;, and what the reader gains is not information but a fresh opportunity to disapprove of their outgroup.
eestradaalmost 2 years ago
Thomas Jefferson said &quot;...the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them; inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods &amp; errors.&quot;<p>Disenchantment with the news is not a new thing. More people are figuring out how useless it is and are disconnecting.
gdubsalmost 2 years ago
I tried to explain to my kids lately the trouble with news. You want to be an informed citizen, so that you have some perspective on what&#x27;s happening in the world and why. But that&#x27;s rarely what &#x27;news&#x27; is. Instead, it&#x27;s a constant informational warfare environment. Rarely is a piece of news simply reporting on events – it&#x27;s almost always trying to shape your opinion. The New York Times Daily podcast ends with &quot;Here&#x27;s what else you need to know today.&quot;<p>So I&#x27;ve started to teach my kids instead how to read news critically. To spot logical fallacies and the signs of manipulation. To understand when someone is sharing an opinion rather than a fact, and to be aware that a lot of the information buzzing around the world is usually directed towards convincing you of something more than it is about educating you.<p>There&#x27;s still solid journalism out there, and I think a lot of people enter into the field with a desire to serve a public good. But sadly I think the majority of news has become like food from a vending machine. The signage might say Food™ but its got the nutritional value of a plastic toy. It&#x27;s junk, filler, an extension of some corporate PR department.
jader201almost 2 years ago
The problem with consuming most sources of “news” is that it’s not actually factual news.<p>It’s heavily filtered and spun stories from a small group of heavily biased and like-minded individuals.<p>This is true of mainstream media, social media*, and even small circles of friends.<p>It’s hard to find single sources of unbiased news where there isn’t bias or an agenda.<p>*Yes, this includes HN, but I believe (hopefully) to a lesser extent, or I wouldn’t be here either.
standardlyalmost 2 years ago
I cleansed myself of social media and news about 10 years ago and I have no regrets whatsoever. I stay informed via ambient snippets of information that are unavoidable just by using the internet every day, or from conversations at work, and when I want to know more about a thing I specifically search out information from different sources on that thing.
glonqalmost 2 years ago
In 2016 (for likely obvious reasons) I broke the habit of watching the evening news, and I&#x27;m much happier for it.<p>And I&#x27;m still well-informed. I peek at TV news occasionally, and glimpse at online news too. But I avoid editorials and sources that add a lot of spin. Give me the as-raw-as-possible news so that I can decide if&#x2F;how I feel about it on my own.
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mywacadayalmost 2 years ago
24 hour news stations should be banned along with on the hour news. The constant feed of content edited to poke our serotonin receptors serve no real benefit. News 3 or 4 times a day should be plenty, very very few news stories require blow by blow coverage. The news has just turned into another thing to buy&#x2F;sell our limited attention for profit.
ChicagoDavealmost 2 years ago
Even the best news has a profit-based incentive system. Headlines are almost always clickbait.<p>Even so, I read the Post, Atlantic, BBC, and Al Jazeera. Sometimes listen to NPR, but they seem to have been infiltrated by the Koch brothers schemes.<p>I also try to have deep discussions with a diverse, educated, well-traveled set of acquaintances.<p>All of this leads to, I hope, a well informed perspective.
rapniealmost 2 years ago
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srhtftwalmost 2 years ago
I spend too much time on HN to read or watch the news but when I do I generally limit myself to a quick skim of these sites<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theconversation.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theconversation.com</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Portal:Current_events" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Portal:Current_events</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;text.npr.org" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;text.npr.org</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newsminimalist.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.newsminimalist.com</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ground.news" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ground.news</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sumi.news" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sumi.news</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.freshnews.org" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.freshnews.org</a>
rubicon33almost 2 years ago
Let&#x27;s call it for what it is.<p>News media has had completely dissolved all sense of morality in reporting. They&#x27;ve killed the goose looking for golden eggs.
HocusLocusalmost 2 years ago
I don&#x27;t avoid the news, I just avoid news sites unless I am following a specific text link with interest. Every couple of days I run a perl script that loads 15 html pages from 11 sites (the first 5 pages of zerohedge) and they are all aggregation sites so there can be 1500 unique links per page. The script looks at &lt;A HREF=...&gt;text&lt;&#x2F;A&gt; links only and checks each URL against an already-seen database (currently 56,089 entries) to show me only unique new ones. It sorts the new links by rank as they appear across their respective sources, so if it is near the top of any page it will be near the top on my result page. The already-seen logic casts out recurring links and site navigation and I don&#x27;t add sources often.<p>The result page is very simple html that I customize to a larger easy to read font with no visual clutter except the source abbreviations and a bold sequence number. It is presented in a single long scrolling paragraph without whitespace, and I will typically keep the tab open and skim and through it over one or two days. An example of a recent page is here ( <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ia902708.us.archive.org&#x2F;2&#x2F;items&#x2F;news-aggregation-demo&#x2F;news-aggregation-demo.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ia902708.us.archive.org&#x2F;2&#x2F;items&#x2F;news-aggregation-dem...</a> )
JohnFenalmost 2 years ago
I don&#x27;t avoid the news, but I&#x27;m pretty selective about my news sources. I do mostly avoid discussions about the news, though.
harshalizeealmost 2 years ago
Any recommendations for a good weekly or monthly magazine that covers the week&#x2F;month&#x27;s news well. Bonus for printed editions, and one that doesn&#x27;t involving the most kafka-esque unsubscribe process.
speak_plainlyalmost 2 years ago
The current state of media seems to be mired in several alarming trends that are undermining its integrity and value to the public.<p>First and foremost, there appears to be a conspicuous lack of innovation, with many outlets relying on reprinting or repackaging press releases, tweets, or even direct government propaganda rather than delivering original content. This absence of creativity is closely tied to a perceived decline in quality, with some journalism bordering on mere repetition rather than insightful analysis.<p>Furthermore, there is a troubling lack of serious investigation and critical thought by reporters, which is essential for a functioning democracy.<p>Lastly, some media figures seem to be increasingly out of touch with the real issues, sometimes even bordering on activism rather than unbiased reporting.<p>The reluctance of traditional media companies to fully embrace the opportunities provided by the internet has led to significant consequences. By failing to innovate and adapt to the digital landscape, they lost out on revenue streams such as job postings and classifieds.<p>More than that, their continued reliance on outdated business models has resulted in products that often resemble mere copy-paste versions of their former selves. This lack of adaptation has left a vacuum in the market, allowing platforms like Twitter, Facebook, and others to fill the gaps.<p>It&#x27;s going to take a major shift in thinking for the news media to make up for 30 years of lost time in terms of innovation and survive as social media matures as a service.
djoldmanalmost 2 years ago
It&#x27;s interesting to me that many threads here seem to imply that lower news consumption by Americans is bad and that the fault lies with the news industry.<p>Ignoring whether it&#x27;s bad or not, if Americans want mostly unbiased news, they have easy access to it on the web:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apnews.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apnews.com&#x2F;</a><p>Americans choose other sources for news... they&#x27;re not forced to consume it. The &quot;blame&quot; lies with the people.<p>Edit: Notice above that I wrote &quot;mostly unbiased&quot; not &quot;totally unbiased.&quot; If you want to order all news sources by least bias, AP and Reuters are usually toward the top [0][1].<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;adfontesmedia.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2023&#x2F;01&#x2F;MBC-Jan-23-flag-2048x1620.jpg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;adfontesmedia.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2023&#x2F;01&#x2F;MBC-Jan...</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.allsides.com&#x2F;media-bias&#x2F;media-bias-chart" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.allsides.com&#x2F;media-bias&#x2F;media-bias-chart</a>
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tacker2000almost 2 years ago
Its just the oversaturation that we have at this point. You are bombarded every minute by something “new”.<p>People are getting tired, and so am I. I used to check my local and intl news sites a few times every hour but its just a waste of time to be honest.<p>The same news will be available at a later stage, if its important enough. I have just blocked the news sites on my work pc for good and it has really helped me.
taylodlalmost 2 years ago
Do I avoid the <i>news?</i> No, of course not. What I avoid is <i>commentary masquerading as news.</i> If I&#x27;m going to get an opinion from someone, it&#x27;s going to be someone who&#x27;s demonstrated critical thinking skills. You&#x27;re not going to find that on the TV news channels or on social media. They&#x27;re all simply a waste of time.
rdtscalmost 2 years ago
&gt; Part of the problem, he says, is that publishers are in hot pursuit of news consumers who are willing to pay for news — subscription buyers, in other words — and shape their offerings around the perceived needs and interests of customers who are relatively affluent, educated and “politically interested.”<p>I wonder what the next trick might be. Manufacture the news! Someone goes out at night and spray paints some obscenities on the main street intersection, then in the morning they report on it &quot;everyone get angry, look at what just happened&quot;. I am joking, of course...<p>To be serious though, they reap what the saw. And I guess found out that selecting on what to report and how is not too far from &quot;manufacturing&quot; the news. They found in the short term getting people enraged&#x2F;engaged (there is only one letter difference!) with and divisively selected headlines was great for business. In the long term, people become disillusioned because they see through the dishonesty, hostility and bias after a while.
macinjoshalmost 2 years ago
The news is no longer a singular source of information and when it was, it really wasn&#x27;t that great anyway. Sure, the information sent out was reliably reliable, the problem lied in the stories that weren&#x27;t reported and the inconvenient facts that were left in the dust bin.<p>Today, the news is a battlefield for information warfare. Treat it like the adversarial environment that it is. Understand the leanings, biases, and agendas of the publications you read (these can change over time). One of the most important parts to consider is what is left out? Which questions aren&#x27;t asked? Which stories are ignored by one publication but not another?<p>Only once you understand all that, can you get an idea of what is going on in the news landscape. After all that still take with a grain of salt.
robotnikmanalmost 2 years ago
Yeah I&#x27;ve been trying, it has never been good for my mental health seeing all the negativity. Even sticking here to HN trying to only stay on top of tech related news, I still run into problems stumbling over news of negative things which I have no control over
jameslkalmost 2 years ago
The irony of Hacker News commenters saying they avoid the news on a site called Hacker News...
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AmericanOPalmost 2 years ago
It is a remarkable phenomenon that all three cable news channels in America have dedicated themselves entirely to the individual of Donald Trump, all the way from 2016 to 2024 and beyond.<p>It defies a certain logic that audiences can tire of Marvel movies that come out a couple times a year, but daily coverage of such an asinine topic for nearly a decade is supported by the market?<p>Certainly this has to be culturally damaging, but everyone sort of pretends it&#x27;s normal for the country to focus on the antics and tribulations of one person.<p>TV runs the country for now but I am optimistic their vapidity will drive the next generations to the internet. There appears to me a growing number of young people growing up online.
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d4rkp4tternalmost 2 years ago
Nice to know I am not alone. No TV at home since 11 years. About 6 months ago stopped going on Twitter and google news or any internet news. In terms of my daily “diet” it is exclusively HN and Reddit&#x2F;ML for up to an hour in the morning, plus a few select tech newsletters I subscribe to.<p>Core problem with Twitter or LinkedIn — almost everything is calculated to self-promote the authors. Granted there are many “interesting” things that pop on Twitter. However that is also a problem — things are often too interesting, and if you’re a builder you’ll never build anything if you follow every rabbit hole.
jrh3almost 2 years ago
&quot;I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not going to take this any more!&quot; - Network <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ZwMVMbmQBug">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ZwMVMbmQBug</a>
karaterobotalmost 2 years ago
I don&#x27;t avoid reading news, I just avoid reading it continuously. If there is an ongoing story I am interested in (like the war in Ukraine) I check in on it once every couple of days, via sources I have some trust in. Eventually, I read a long-form article about it, but those take a few weeks or months to be written. What I don&#x27;t do is check social media every 15 minutes, or watch 24&#x2F;7 cable news. I think obsession is the delivery mechanism for problems like anxiety, depression, or radicalization, not the news itself.
wkat4242almost 2 years ago
Not in America but yes I avoid the news. I only read headlines once a day or so, without pictures.<p>I found this page from the National news agency that leaves out the picture fluff and makes it a bit like HN: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nos.nl&#x2F;nieuws&#x2F;archief" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nos.nl&#x2F;nieuws&#x2F;archief</a><p>It&#x27;s just what I wanted! There was a commercial site too that was mostly headlines (nu.nl) but those idiots now require an account to read most articles.
matthewfelgatealmost 2 years ago
The problem comes from our upbringing, where we were told that the news was important.<p>But, news today is not the bulletin headlines and long-read newspaper investigations we knew news to be in the 1980s and 1990s. News has now morphed into an amalgamation of the worst elements of social media and reality television.<p>By reading a publication such as The Economist once a month, you can attain a more comprehensive understanding of global affairs than you would by watching daily news broadcasts.
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TySchultzalmost 2 years ago
I&#x27;ve been able to cut out the news for the most part with a small side project. It combines hundreds of sources and thousands of articles every day to make a concise digest.<p>In about 5 minutes I can get caught up without doom scrolling.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apps.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;quill-news-digest&#x2F;id1669557131" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apps.apple.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;app&#x2F;quill-news-digest&#x2F;id1669557131</a>
zerof1lalmost 2 years ago
Yep, I can relate. I also started to avoid reading the news. In the past, I would read the news first thing in the morning. Now I do it only in the afternoon. I also unsubscribed from a newspaper and one Youtube new channel which had too many negative news. Overall I feel better, less depressed and anxious. And my productivity had improved.
zer0zzzalmost 2 years ago
As per usual the news people writing news articles blaming their own failure on phones and the internet. At some point can we just get one honest article where the writers and news people that work at these organizations own up to their hyper sensationalization of content and overdoing these constant news alerts and “breaking” headlines.
jackptalmost 2 years ago
I run a cybersecurity newsletter so i find myself searching through rubbish for ages, from both a mix of mainstream media and people&#x27;s personal blogs. Most of my issues lie with mainstream media which either not have enough expertise to write the story or signigicantly dumb it down so they can be applicable to a much wider audience.
rickstanleyalmost 2 years ago
I tend to avoid most of the United States related news, to me it is like a reality show or something.<p>I&#x27;d rather read <i>about</i> the US from another source, in tagesschau (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tagesschau.de&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tagesschau.de&#x2F;</a>), for instance.
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cafardalmost 2 years ago
The Washington Post is itself showing signs of news aversion. Their local news is pretty scant these days.
jcpham2almost 2 years ago
I&#x27;m about two decades removed by mainstream media news&#x2F;cable tv programming. I&#x27;m an American but I don&#x27;t consume any news or television programming I watch netflix sometimes? Reddit&#x2F;HN? Whenever we cut the cord many ideas left our household with the cable TV box.
rabbits_2002almost 2 years ago
If I try to read the front page of any news website (as opposed to an aggregator like this website) I get the feeling like someone is trying to sell me a product or convince me of something. I think it is the commanding tone of headlines these days. I am probably just crazy.
t0bia_salmost 2 years ago
As long as you understand that news agencies are about business, not about bringing facts at first, than you realise, why emotions, sensations and tabloid style is presented here.<p>News, without making money, are boring. Consumers are trained to obtain news in entertainment.
xtagonalmost 2 years ago
I want news as an RSS&#x2F;atom feed with properly consistent tags to filter by. That way I can opt in to just what I want to know, get it when it happens, and ignore everything else by default. But there isn&#x27;t business value in news outlets providing this.
tim333almost 2 years ago
I like news but avoid the mainstream party A says party B is rubbish and visa versa and some mucked up crime happened some place you&#x27;ve never heard of which will be shown repeatedly for ages.<p>Some is interesting though - it&#x27;s good to be selective.
notquitehumanalmost 2 years ago
I don’t find the oligarchy to be a reputable source of information about the oligarchy.
peoplearepeoplealmost 2 years ago
I&#x27;d watch a 5 minute segment of factual-only news. Not an hour of filler junk
ljsocalalmost 2 years ago
Consumption is elective whether it’s “news”, electricity or potato chips. Exercise discipline about what news you consume the same way you walk down the chips aisle with blinders on. You do, don’t you?!
MarcScottalmost 2 years ago
The time I take reading the news each day (BBC news and The Guardian) is the time it takes me to use the toilet each morning. I scan headlines, and only read articles of interest. I spend way more time each week on this site, than I do reading traditional mainstream news, and usually skip articles with paywalls and just come to the comments section to get a synopsis.<p>I used to be an avid receiver of traditional news media. I listened to BBC Radio 4 for about three hours a day, particularly Today on my commute into work and PM on my commute home. Then Any Questions on Saturday, and often The World at One at lunch.<p>I&#x27;m done with it all TBH. This site tends to surface most things that I find important or have an effect on my life. I honestly don&#x27;t need to know what is happening on day X of the invasion of Ukraine. I much prefer reading about what&#x27;s the latest going on with reproducibility studies of LK-99 than the political machinations of random ministers in parliment.
UberFlyalmost 2 years ago
Count me as one of them. I touch an overview of what&#x27;s new once a day and the rest of the time I&#x27;m listening to sports radio. It&#x27;s entertaining and means nothing ultimately.
chankstein38almost 2 years ago
The reality is &quot;being informed&quot; is not all it&#x27;s told to be. What am I going to do about 90% of the stuff? Nothing. So why stress myself out about it?
thinkingemotealmost 2 years ago
I don&#x27;t avoid the news. If it&#x27;s important to me it will reach me one way or the other. Friends, family, neighbours or someone posting here!<p>I&#x27;m okay with the unavoidable news.
aruncalmost 2 years ago
Glad to see this on HN. I stopped watching&#x2F;listening&#x2F;reading news in 2011 due to constant negativity and fear mongering. I don&#x27;t miss it.
rlawsonalmost 2 years ago
Yeah, covid got me addicted to the news - altho I was always into politics. Have really made an effort to read less news and am much happier.
chmod600almost 2 years ago
Conservative news sources insult your intellect. Liberal news sources flatter your intellect. Both have a payload they are trying to deliver.
tpoacheralmost 2 years ago
I don&#x27;t avoid &quot;news&quot;. I avoid so-called &quot;mainstream&quot; conglomerate-driven media. Subtle difference.
slackfanalmost 2 years ago
Eastern Europeans have had it right for over a century, all news is inherently bullshit. Yes, all of it. No exceptions.
ChrisArchitectalmost 2 years ago
This head-in-sand attitude is not a good thing either. It just furthers the rampant individualism that plagues all levels of society as everyone focuses on themselves only. They are &quot;the main character&quot; and why should they care what&#x27;s going on with anyone else near or far? The effects of that selfishness are detrimental whenever anything collective is required from the pandemic to just helping each other out in a local community.
nitwit005almost 2 years ago
The product is just worse. The number of reporters has plummeted, and you often can&#x27;t get local news anymore.
Hoasialmost 2 years ago
Already avoided the news for some years, the Covid era put the nail in that coffin for good.
incomingpainalmost 2 years ago
I avoid the &#x27;news&#x27; from disreputable papers because it&#x27;s obvious they are regularly lying intentionally to boost a specific political group.<p>OP is washington post.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;post-politics&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2016&#x2F;04&#x2F;06&#x2F;clinton-questions-whether-sanders-is-qualified-to-be-president&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;post-politics&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2016&#x2F;04...</a><p>or<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;fact-checker&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2016&#x2F;04&#x2F;07&#x2F;sanderss-incorrect-claim-that-clinton-called-him-not-qualified-for-the-presidency&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;fact-checker&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2016&#x2F;04&#x2F;...</a><p>These are not possible to reconcile, obviously Bernie Sanders was not the liar. The swamp beat Bernie.
gnarlynarwhal42almost 2 years ago
I am of two minds on this subject.<p>I was very politically aware from ~12ish to probably 25 or so, and I had very strongly held beliefs and I was more than happy to evangelize. At some point I realized that most people really didn&#x27;t care to live or be inconvenienced in furtherance of their beliefs (if they even got far enough to <i>have</i> articulable beliefs&#x2F;standards) I just resigned myself to the reality that my sphere of influence is extremely small unless I dedicated more time than I was willing to activism&#x2F;evangelism&#x2F;whateverism and my time would be better spent improving myself educationally and professionally so that I didn&#x27;t end up looking back on my lonely life, having not changed anything.<p>At the same time, if collectively &quot;we&quot; want something to change, &quot;we&quot; need to be informed from primary sources that haven&#x27;t been focused through some self-serving lens, which takes time and effort away from immediate needs. And then further effort needs to be expended to turn &quot;we&quot; into &quot;us&quot; but there is a(n) (to some extent) artificial standard of living that a person (believes or has been indoctrinated to believe that they) need(s) to uphold that precludes effectively anyone from gathering enough of a common cause to effect change.<p>The people that make the real decisions have absolutely unfathomable amounts of resources&#x2F;power&#x2F;influence. The power comes from influence, and the influence comes from having the resources (money&#x2F;destructive power) to create a situation of the carrot and the stick (blackmail or &quot;bribes&quot;) for anyone with ambitions of upsetting the status quo. Hence the hubbub about epstein&#x2F;soros or BigCorp, depending on your side.<p>&quot;The News&quot; is just another top-down adverstisement for one side or the other of the same effective outcome. Sometimes I hate feeling like I &quot;gave up&quot; but the^Wmy reality is that I realized I have zero control or influence over the broader situation, so for a good long time I have been focusing my energy on improving my own situation, living my beliefs and hopefully passively inspiring others to do the same.<p>I think Carlin (PBUH) said it best - &quot;It&#x27;s a big club, and you ain&#x27;t in it&quot;<p>teal deer: news is bullshit, everything that you haven&#x27;t explicitly searched out and verified from first principles is an attempt at hypnotic suggestion and the only thing over which you have power is within driving distance.<p>thank you for coming to my ted talk.
omgJustTestalmost 2 years ago
When &quot;breaking news&quot; breaks the news.
yborisalmost 2 years ago
<i>Stop Reading the News: A Manifesto for a Happier, Calmer and Wiser Life</i> book:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Stop-Reading-News-information-overload&#x2F;dp&#x2F;1529342686" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Stop-Reading-News-information-overloa...</a><p>TL;DR: a PDF: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gwern.net&#x2F;doc&#x2F;culture&#x2F;2010-dobelli.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gwern.net&#x2F;doc&#x2F;culture&#x2F;2010-dobelli.pdf</a><p>Discussion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21430337">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21430337</a>
cempakaalmost 2 years ago
At my last job, maybe a good fifth of the company or so seemed to have emotional states which careened from one end of the spectrum to the other based upon whether some new COVID variant had just been announced, or new developments in the will-they&#x2F;won&#x27;t-they arrest Donald Trump theater, or whatever. They would occasionally be completely unable to do work based on these news items which, while sometimes of reasonably high importance, had effectively zero chance to change their daily lives in any meaningful way whatsoever. It was really quite something to watch.
dougmwnealmost 2 years ago
Me too. And I think it’s entirely rational. The newsroom budgets at all news organizations have been slashed to the bone. There’s nearly no well researched journalism being produced today. This news content is nearly information free and contains either the most basic facts, someone’s agenda or blatant misinformation. And on top of that, it’s emotional nuclear warfare out there, just constant rage bait or fear bait.<p>So yeah, I dropped out. What of it?
friend_and_foealmost 2 years ago
I avoid the news, I don&#x27;t follow any news. Not a TV channel, a publication, my preferred talking head, the dude on twitter or a guy who does commentary on YouTube. Big or small, I don&#x27;t care about the news.<p>It&#x27;s not because it&#x27;s all negative. It&#x27;s because it&#x27;s all bullshit. Almost all of it is someone who has an interest in changing my worldview so that I behave in ways that are beneficial to them. Often enough its a thinly veiled business funnel. Sometimes it&#x27;s not like that, it&#x27;s just noise that is inconsequential to me. But in every single case it isn&#x27;t worth actively following; if something is important enough you&#x27;ll hear about it from a person in your life. And probably you&#x27;ll hear about unimportant things too, everyone knows at least one person who won&#x27;t shut up about Trump this Biden that.<p>I&#x27;d say my life is better. I see these news addicts and theyre all just bitter, anxious basket cases constantly chewing their nails to a nub about some shit that their life would not change one bit if they didn&#x27;t even know about, besides the anxiety they get from knowing about it of course.
seydoralmost 2 years ago
But isnt this news?
pneillalmost 2 years ago
I&#x27;m a reformed news junkie. At one point, in addition to consuming local, national, and cable TV news daily, I also read three newspapers a day (I was young and hand more time on my hands back then) and listened to NPR. But my confidence in the news was shattered long ago. It started with the OJ Simpson trial. Back then I was between jobs and had time on my hands so I could watch the actual trial, which was televised on CourtTV. Day after day, the prosecution would lay out their case and then the defense would destroy it. OJ really got his money&#x27;s worth with that defense team. At night I would then watch the news coverage, which only told the prosecution story. I kept say, &quot;did we watch the same trial?&quot; Long before the glove didn&#x27;t fit, I was 100% confidence he would be acquitted. But the world was <i>shocked</i> when jury came back with the not guilty verdict because they only knew one side of the story.<p>After that I started to consume news with a more critical eye. Another story I remember was on NPR and the narrative they wanted to tell was that streaming music services were screwing the independent musicians. The example they gave was how a radio station might play an artist song and get some sum of money per play, but a much, much lower payment on a streaming service - of course they completely forgot to mention that a radio station is a broadcast where a single play could be heard by millions, but a single play on a streaming service was only heard by a single person.<p>At a certain point, after you catch a few of these stories, you start to wonder what other stories aren&#x27;t true that you&#x27;re not catching. And you lose all faith in the institution (it&#x27;s super depressing) The question I like to ask folks who excuse the news is this - if a close friend of yours lied about something important to you and you caught them, how many times would you have to catch them lying to you before if you&#x27;d stop trusting them all up? It&#x27;s not many 1 maybe 2 times. The news has done this to us all over and over.<p>What&#x27;s the solution? Like it or not, we really need journalism in this country. I tell folks that the collapse of the news industry is one of the greatest problems in this country that nobody is trying to fix.<p>The only solution I&#x27;ve been able to dream up is this. Create a tax on digital advertising and cloud computing (these are arguably one of the biggest causes of the decline in journalism). Then use that money to create 3 quasi governmental news organizations (like the post office or amtrak). Make it pay journalists like software engineers, with the expectation that they waive their voting rights for life. (note that Bob Woodward once said he doesn&#x27;t vote to mitigate bias). Then set up an system where each news agency is incentivized to monitor the other news agencies for accuracy. If they think they&#x27;re misrepresenting the facts, they can present that to collection of ombudsman* to judge. If it&#x27;s deemed that they misrepresented the facts, they lose budget. Do it enough, and they&#x27;re out of business and and the money is used to form a new news agency.<p>*Note ombudsman, once a mainstream in the news, seem to have all but vanished.<p>Anyway, that&#x27;s my story and my idea. What&#x27;s yours?