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Italy shocks banks with 40 percent windfall tax for 2023

54 pointsby vladdalmost 2 years ago

9 comments

jahnualmost 2 years ago
Already watered down to “ not exceed 0.1% of each bank’s total assets”<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;live&#x2F;2023&#x2F;aug&#x2F;09&#x2F;italy-revises-bank-windfall-tax-uk-five-years-lost-economic-growth-mortgages-interest-rates-business-live" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;live&#x2F;2023&#x2F;aug&#x2F;09&#x2F;italy-...</a>
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Kiroalmost 2 years ago
This feels like the type of thing that every single person will cheer on but will have disastrous indirect effects that are hard to understand.
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nomaD_almost 2 years ago
The idea that banks are private companies in any country is not entirely true. Everyone knows that if a reasonably big bank fails, governments will intervene to protect people&#x27;s money.<p>Banks are technically private but won&#x27;t be valued as much without government protection. So, to some extent, it&#x27;s not wrong for the government to tax them more than other private companies.<p>However, a negative consequence of this tax it reduces the bank&#x27;s incentive to lend money to small and risky companies&#x2F;startups. This is equivalent to increasing capital gains to 40% - why invest in risky assets if I know I will ever only receive a small percentage of my profits (if any)?
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DoingIsLearningalmost 2 years ago
I see some mentions of Spain and Hungary, what are the chances of contagion across governments?<p>What about contagion to other sectors Oil &amp; Gas?<p>Retail players (P&amp;G, Unilever, Nestle, Etc.)?
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ChrisArchitectalmost 2 years ago
[dupe]<p>More discussion over here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37049786">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37049786</a>
ttonkytonkalmost 2 years ago
If liberty can be sacrificed through conscription, why not property through taxes?
2Gkashmirialmost 2 years ago
so.... if banks make &quot;super profit&quot;, doesnt that imply they managed to gouge customers by charging them excess % on their loans and fucked depositors by giving them less % on their deposits?
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mrcgncalmost 2 years ago
Discussed here as well:
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memefrogalmost 2 years ago
Ah well if Italy is doing it, we all should. They manage their economy famously well.<p>Do the banks get a &quot;windfall subsidy&quot; when they have bad years?
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