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The Future of the Vim Project

680 pointsby mrzoolalmost 2 years ago

19 comments

OskarSalmost 2 years ago
My brother passed away very suddenly a few years ago, and I was put in charge of wrapping up and archiving his &quot;digital&quot; life. We were very lucky that we had access to a recovery email for his main gmail account (as well as a couple of passwords that his partner knew) and was able to access and archive virtually all data we could think of (services like Google Takeout were invaluable). I realized that if this had happened to me, it would have been virtually impossible to do, as all my passwords and credentials are in my password manager, and the password to that was only in my head.<p>It&#x27;s a good thing to plan for this eventuality, to make it easy for your family and friends to wind up your &quot;digital life&quot; after you&#x27;ve passed. 1Password has a very good solution for this, with a &quot;recovery document&quot; you can print out and write down your password on, which contains instructions anyone else would need to access your 1Password account. I gave a copy of this document printed out to a small number of people I trust implicitly.<p>You never know when something sudden can happen to you. For the sake of those you leave behind, it&#x27;s a nice gift to plan for this eventuality, even if it seems far off at the moment.
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majewskyalmost 2 years ago
Can someone copy-paste the text, please? I cannot read it because Google hates Firefox users apparently.<p>EDIT: The Internet Archive has a functional copy. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20230810094255&#x2F;groups.google.com&#x2F;g&#x2F;vim_dev&#x2F;c&#x2F;dq9Wu5jqVTw" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20230810094255&#x2F;groups.google.com...</a>
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javier_e06almost 2 years ago
I&#x27;m saddened by the news.<p>Required reading: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;evrone.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;bram-moolenaar-interview" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;evrone.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;bram-moolenaar-interview</a><p>&quot;Software development is much more of a craft. A craftsman uses whatever tools he thinks will get the best result, no matter if they are what everybody else is using or something different. And a good craftsman makes his own tools when needed&quot; -B. Moolenar.<p>As someone who had made vim is part of the development dna: Thank you.
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junonalmost 2 years ago
Best of luck, this transition period is going to be chaotic for a while I&#x27;m sure. Glad to see the project in the hands of someone who seems to be on top of things. I also appreciate the carefulness of changes to the codebase after assuming leadership.
fortunateregardalmost 2 years ago
What is it that prevents the rest of the vim community from adopting neovim? From what I can observe, a great deal already have. But for the folks holding out, what is it that outweighs all that neovim has to offer?
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oblioalmost 2 years ago
I hope both Vim and Neovim extend olive branches (and Git branches where it makes sense! :-D ).<p>Even if the fork doesn&#x27;t heal, if they could align the code bases to bring them closer, both sides win.
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vxNsralmost 2 years ago
Everyone puts off estate planning in general for obvious reasons (most people don’t want to think about their own mortality) all the more so, most don’t give a thought to digital estate planning, it’s especially hard because there are very few resources to do it and most apps&#x2F;websites don’t have that workflow planned out (Afaik, really only Facebook does anything for this).<p>My wife and I share a password manager account so theoretically she should have access to every site I use, but will she know where to go? Will she have any clue how to maintain our local self hosted services? Let alone the hardware?<p>I’ve walked her through restarting the esxi server and ssh’ing into the main docker server to restart it, but I haven’t documented any of this anywhere for her…
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pwpwalmost 2 years ago
I never realized a tool I use every day was still being actively maintained. An endless amount of thanks to Bram Moolenaar, the many others that have contributed to it, and those that are now helping in the transition.<p>—-<p>As an aside, browsing this website on an iPad is terrible. It doesn’t respect my request to increase the font size, and when I zoom in, it starts moving and wrapping the text defeating the purpose of the zoom. That being said, the quote formatting and response is fantastic and how online communication should be.
gpvosalmost 2 years ago
I&#x27;m getting &quot;Something went wrong. Please try again later.&quot; (both latest FF and Chrome). I don&#x27;t think HN can slashdot Google yet, any ideas?
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ducktectivealmost 2 years ago
Didn&#x27;t Bram himself say anything on this matter? (I know of that one single quote &quot;keep me alive&quot;).<p>RIP Bram, I learned a lot from you.
causialmost 2 years ago
I keep a couple of m-discs in my gun safe encrypted with a password most of my family knows, but they don&#x27;t know the safe combination. If I kick the bucket they can cut the hinges off in a few minutes with my angle grinder. They could also use my corpse&#x27;s finger to unlock my phone but that&#x27;s a bit morbid.
nunezalmost 2 years ago
Google webcached version: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:EFAGYiTVo38J:https:&#x2F;&#x2F;groups.google.com&#x2F;g&#x2F;vim_dev&#x2F;c&#x2F;dq9Wu5jqVTw&amp;cd=9&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:EFAGYiT...</a>
meithamalmost 2 years ago
I do hope this gets taken as a chance to merge Vim and Neovim, otherwise a divided community is not great for the editor
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markstosalmost 2 years ago
With lazy.nvim, I started with like 60 plugins in 17 milliseconds.<p>The resulting feature set was closer to VS Code than Vi. If that’s “slow”, it was still so fast it felt instant.
thrownaway561almost 2 years ago
deepest sympathies for Bram and the VIM community.<p>reading the post it seems that the project will continue after some growing pains from the lead. one thing to take from this is projects as popular as VIM need to hand the keys to the kingdom over to the community before anything drastic happens.
sylwarealmost 2 years ago
Any interpo noscript&#x2F;basic (x)html link?
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fnord77almost 2 years ago
google groups won&#x27;t even load<p>&gt; Something went wrong. Please try again later.
toastalalmost 2 years ago
This would have been the perfect time to pivot away from Google Groups &amp; Microsoft GitHub
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earth2marsalmost 2 years ago
Why so many people love vim? I have a genuine question. I was trying to delete contents of a file and paste new content. It was nightmare for me to remember the 3 or 4 finger combination shortcuts with small and cap letters involved during the process. I like if the shortcuts using Ctrl or shift or Alt or Command or Windows buttons over 3 finger with caps changing keys. The cognitive load in remembering shortcuts is nightmare. Please give me a genuine opinion and justification. Does it really makes someone that productive? If they are keyboard wizards to type faster can&#x27;t they do even faster with modern ides with similar proficiency. I know this topic is near and dear to many. Especially, the creator is died and folks can get even emotional. But I have same complaints about any terminal based ides. I just don&#x27;t get complex long form keyboard shortcuts!<p>Edit: typo
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