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A new instrument found unusual success

160 pointsby Turukawaalmost 2 years ago

29 comments

beefmanover 1 year ago
The Harpejji is based on the StarrBoard, invented by my friend John Starrett[1][2] in the 1980s,[3] as acknowledged on the Harpejji website[4]. Not sure how the Guardian got to such lengths describing Meeks as the inventor without noticing this.<p>Here&#x27;s a photo I took of the original StarrBoard in Gainesville, FL in 1997: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;pilVv8b" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;pilVv8b</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;starrettguitars.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;starrettguitars.com&#x2F;</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scholar.google.com&#x2F;citations?user=q2hIMZ8AAAAJ&amp;hl=en" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scholar.google.com&#x2F;citations?user=q2hIMZ8AAAAJ&amp;hl=en</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;StarrBoard" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;StarrBoard</a><p>[4] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.marcodi.com&#x2F;pages&#x2F;about-us" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.marcodi.com&#x2F;pages&#x2F;about-us</a>
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Jeff_Brownover 1 year ago
This needs to be multiscale. The treble sounds strained and whiny, because it&#x27;s at too much tension, because it&#x27;s too long. The bass sounds farty and unfocused, because it&#x27;s at too little tension, because it&#x27;s too short. There&#x27;s a good reason bass guitars are bigger than guitars.<p>Multi-scale guitars have been out of patent for years now. And if the harpejji was invented in 2007, then I believe it should go out of patents next year? I hope the resulting competition makes them up their game.
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Mizzaover 1 year ago
I came up with something similar, in the opposite direction: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Miserlou&#x2F;LaunchBoard">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Miserlou&#x2F;LaunchBoard</a><p>It&#x27;s an Ableton device to map the keys of a Novation LaunchPad as if it were an 8 string, 8 fret guitar. I play the guitar but not the piano, but play a lot of synths. This bridges the gap for me, and it&#x27;s so, so, so much fun.<p>I&#x27;m thinking about doing a dedicated hardware version with proper midi out, touch sensitivity and integrated capo&#x2F;octave knobs. Maybe worth dusting that idea off if this guy was so successful..
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jasonjmcgheeover 1 year ago
Jacob Collier (relatively famous musician) has a number of videos playing the Harpejji.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=V5T-9RPW4pg">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=V5T-9RPW4pg</a><p>He has a lot of great content in general and musical talent, if you’ve never come across him before. Worth diving into.
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jamesashover 1 year ago
A childhood friend of mine invented the Lumitone, a microtonal keyboard with colored backlit hexagonal keys. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=LfNIxTiApig">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=LfNIxTiApig</a><p>About 10 years ago I visited him in his studio where he had all mocked up in paper and cardboard, putting all the pieces together. Fun to see it finally out and in people&#x27;s hands.
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hliyanover 1 year ago
This looked incredibly complicated to play initially, but at this particular point of the &quot;Playing basics&quot; video, I was sold: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;AUnvq2zRU6k?t=85" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;AUnvq2zRU6k?t=85</a><p>And it gets better when you see the scales and chords section.<p>The video also explains that it uses piezoelectric sensors.
franky47over 1 year ago
I remember at NAMM about 10 years ago, the company I worked for made a touchscreen-based mixing console.<p>The CEO insisted to have Stevie Wonder try it. What surprised me is that he (SW) <i>looked</i> impressed doing so, moving virtual faders on a glass screen with no tactile feedback.<p>That was my first realization that music is a business like any other, and getting a famous person doing a PR stunt for your product may be beneficial, even though they&#x27;re not at all the intended consumer.<p>But also, SW was using his ears more than his fingers to get the feedback the product was lacking, and so what started as a bad joke made me respect him even more.
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Taikonerdover 1 year ago
<i>&gt; But does anybody really want to play them, learn them or go and see someone else perform on them?”</i><p>This is a great thing about physical instruments: it&#x27;s easy to tell the relationship between what the performer does, and what sound comes out. (Like, &quot;he hit a piano key, and the piano made one note.&quot;)<p>I&#x27;ve been to electronic music concerts, and a lot of the time it&#x27;s just some guy fiddling with his MacBook, and cool music is coming out of the speakers, but it&#x27;s not clear what he&#x27;s really <i>doing</i>.
tayloriusover 1 year ago
I&#x27;m surprised they got the patent on this thing - seems pretty similar to a Chapman stick.
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twicover 1 year ago
Ah, not the otamatone then:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ZmxLja-DRIw">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ZmxLja-DRIw</a>
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MrScruffover 1 year ago
This kind of has the sound of someone playing an acoustic guitar patch on a keyboard. It seems to lack the expressive dynamics you would expect with a guitar, almost like the velocity is clamped.
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raincoleover 1 year ago
Slightly off topic, but I really want an instrument that works like LinnStrument but with a synth built-in (so you can actually play it without connecting to something else).
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Taikonerdover 1 year ago
One cool thing about the harpejji: it&#x27;s isomorphic. That means that the &quot;shape&quot; of a chord will be the same, everywhere on the playing surface. So, switching from playing in C major to D major just means moving your hands over one string. (Guitar and piano players know that it&#x27;s more complex than that on their instruments.)
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fuzztesterover 1 year ago
The Hang is another relatively new instrument that has become somewhat popular in some circles.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hang_(instrument)" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hang_(instrument)</a><p>I got a chance to try one out recently, and played it for a bit. It was fun.
ttctciyfover 1 year ago
The article links to a vulfmon track with audio and a still photo, but the video for same track on the vulf channel proper shows the instrument actually being played[1]. When I saw this a couple of months ago I had a bit of work to convince myself it was a real instrument - Stratton makes it look just too easy!<p>Coincidentally, I found a 1976 video[2] of David Vorhaus playing his Kaleidophon around the same time which gave me the same skeptical vibe.<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=R-ROpRnmmKE">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=R-ROpRnmmKE</a><p>2: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=4rRNM5n3jjQ">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=4rRNM5n3jjQ</a>
Jeff_Brownover 1 year ago
I know a guy who invented something similar 20 years earlier.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;StarrBoard?wprov=sfla1" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;StarrBoard?wprov=sfla1</a>
atentatenover 1 year ago
Video of Stevie Wonder playing the instrument: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=LQtEElCV2lY">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=LQtEElCV2lY</a>
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grejover 1 year ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20230818082739&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;music&#x2F;2023&#x2F;aug&#x2F;16&#x2F;if-stevie-wonder-wants-to-play-it-pay-attention-how-a-bizarre-new-instrument-found-unusual-success" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20230818082739&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thegu...</a>
drifkinover 1 year ago
Cory Henry playing Stevie&#x27;s &quot;Love&#x27;s In Need of Love Today&quot; is great <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=RL50VnZY1Kk">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=RL50VnZY1Kk</a>
zimpenfishover 1 year ago
Harry Partch must be grooving in his grave. Bit of shame he didn&#x27;t live another 20 years, really, it&#x27;d be interesting to see what he could have done with more electronics and synths.
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rwmjover 1 year ago
This (somewhat annoying) youtuber played one: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=NFzW9rnaR7w">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=NFzW9rnaR7w</a>
intrasightover 1 year ago
I have a Linnstrument.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rogerlinndesign.com&#x2F;linnstrument" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rogerlinndesign.com&#x2F;linnstrument</a><p>Is open source too.
paganelover 1 year ago
They should have gone straight to playing a cimbalom, but I guess that wouldn&#x27;t have been seen as cool as singing on a &quot;new&quot; instrument.
gorgoilerover 1 year ago
Beautiful. Maybe it’s just the style of music but the example video is very reminiscent of Disasterpeace’s work:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;disasterpeace.bandcamp.com&#x2F;track&#x2F;nocturne" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;disasterpeace.bandcamp.com&#x2F;track&#x2F;nocturne</a>
rfwhyteover 1 year ago
$4500 USD to start. Wildly expensive for such a simple device.
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retoxover 1 year ago
&gt;A metre-long cross between a piano and electric guitar, the harpejji
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silversmithover 1 year ago
Soo... Electric version of concert kokle? And that got patented?
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eimrineover 1 year ago
I am surprised this thing counts as new. Finger-style playing is one of common techniques. Guitars with increased range is not something new as well.
lmpdevover 1 year ago
Absolutely awful they are patent trolling so hard with this<p>Feels exactly like E-Ink<p>Let us have cheap copies for the masses!
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