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Wikipedia donations used for politics, not for running Wikipedia

30 pointsby BryanLundukeover 1 year ago

8 comments

NoZebra120vClipover 1 year ago
Okay, so I read this article to the end (right down to the ironic &quot;Become a Supporter&quot; button, which I thought was another screenshot at first, but it&#x27;s a real button.)<p>I kept thinking... so? What&#x27;s your point?<p>People run these WMF hitpieces all the time, and they are <i>absolutely enraged</i> that Wikipedia dared to splash a dialog box asking for <i>their money</i>. These are the same people who regularly visit ad-infested news sites and tolerate (while still screaming about) all manner of tracking and monetization as they browse. But Wikipedia, which is 100% ad-free, and 99% free of dialogs asking for donations, how dare they!!1<p>So this particular hitpiece says there&#x27;s a lack of transparency and that Wikimedia is doing a politics. Sure, I suppose we can all use more transparency, especially with a non-profit, but legally, they don&#x27;t need to tell you more than they already do. Solution is easy: don&#x27;t donate. But why write a hitpiece?<p>If only you knew what for-profit, opaque corporations, which never beg for donations, did with their endowments and revenue. Not just corporations, but universities too; it&#x27;s not like Wikimedia is some isolated, evil money-grubbing beggar waiting to do supreme evil with your $5. Wikimedia simply wishes to pull their weight in a pond full of heavyweights. And they have the brand recognition and the influence to do some pretty amazing things, for better or worse.<p>Do you hate Wikipedia&#x27;s politics or something? Are you envious of their highly-ranked and highly-respected position on the Web? Are you really just mad about that dialog box as you were freeloading on our freely-licensed Creative Commons content?
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version_fiveover 1 year ago
Another HN discussion of effectively the same thing (from 9 months ago): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33403233">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33403233</a><p>They can do what they want, and caveat emptor for anyone wanting to make donations. I&#x27;m glad there are regular reminders that hopefully are well publicised that your money is not strictly going towards keeping a big free encyclopedia running.
qawwadsover 1 year ago
A non profit is &quot;trust us, we know what&#x27;s best&quot;, while a cooperative is legally controlled by it&#x27;s member on the basis of one member, one vote, and profits, if any, are distributed between members. I wonder how different would be a cooperative Wikipedia versus the non-profit Wikipedia we got.
Kerb_over 1 year ago
Overcoming systemic bias is critical for a global democratized information platform like Wikipedia, ensuring that all cultures, languages, and histories are represented fairly and comprehensively. This isn&#x27;t merely a &#x27;political&#x27; stance but a necessary step in ensuring the inclusivity and universality of knowledge.<p>Also, comparing the costs of the &quot;Knowledge Equity Fund&quot; to just server expenses is an oversimplification. The intricacies of verifying, curating, and representing diverse knowledge sources can&#x27;t merely be equated to server space costs. Such comparisons seem more than a little disingenuous, given the complexity and importance of the work involved. What&#x27;s the point of running a $2.4 millions server full of garbage?<p>Like this type of drive by analysis? Be sure to follow my HN profile and donate to my PayPal.
tootieover 1 year ago
Yeah, uh good. Wikipedia now does two things better than anyone. Capturing and disseminating information and fundraising. I work at a nonprofit that has pivoted from surplus to deficit. We stored up a cash reserve in the fat years, misspent a bunch of it on ostensibly beneficial endeavors that ended up being kinda worthless and now we&#x27;re eating our reserves to stay alive. Our fundraising operations are functional but withered and we&#x27;re definitely leaving money on the table by not having the wherewithal to reach donors. I can only say I&#x27;m jealous of WMF and wish they&#x27;d come give us some lessons.
taylodlover 1 year ago
Wikimedia is a 501(c)(3) organization, a type of NPO, that is exempt from federal income tax and as such <i>is prohibited by law</i> from making political donations.<p>C&#x27;mon guys. This stuff is <i>easy</i> to verify for yourselves. I expect better from HN.
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seba_dos1over 1 year ago
&quot;Used for politics&quot;? Who wrote this, a 10 years old?<p>The whole mission of Wikipedia is nothing but politics.
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Davieyover 1 year ago
&gt; lunduke<p>Nah, not interested.