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Wi-Fi sniffers strapped to drones: odd plan to stop election fraud

36 pointsby sunbumalmost 2 years ago

15 comments

mikey_palmost 2 years ago
This demonstrates such a poor misunderstanding of how elections and elections equipment work, that this can only be assumed to be a fundraising stunt.<p>I&#x27;ve been a poll worker in Ohio off and on for 3 years, and at no point does any polling location send any voting data over any network of any kind. There&#x27;s literally nothing to hook a router or access point up to that contains any votes.<p>* At least in my county, the electronic pollbooks in each voting location ARE networked to the other pollbooks in that location so that we can see WHO voted, etc. but this is just the pollbooks, which is necessary to prevent folks from voting twice by trying to check in at a different pollbook. Each electronic pollbook is also backed up by a paper pollbook, and we reconcile all the totals several times a day to make sure that we have an accurate count of how many ballots have been issued and how many ballots are in the ballot box.
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coolhand2120almost 2 years ago
I’m not into Lindell or whatever is going on here, but that said closed source voting machines that are not open for audit and have remote access setup really do not sound like the ideal platform for trust. Really if you wanted people to distrust these machines I couldn’t think of a more perfect solution for distrust than that.
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HumblyTossedalmost 2 years ago
These people are so fucking stupid. There&#x27;s just no being nice about it. They are void of any intelligence whatsoever.
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lockhousealmost 2 years ago
Or we could just offer secure voter IDs to everyone that is legally eligible to vote free of charge.<p>It could be like selective service. Sign up after your eighteenth birthday to vote.<p>Also, use scantron style ballots that use computers to automate vote counting but not vote casting, with members of all major political parties monitoring polling stations and vote counting to ensure everything is above board.
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brkalmost 2 years ago
I can&#x27;t wait to show up to the next election with some ESP32&#x27;s configured to create networks like &quot;Diebold System 1&quot; or &quot;Vote Reorganizer&quot;.
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orangepurplealmost 2 years ago
Why bother performing election fraud using an online process? Just discard user inputs, use preloaded historical local voter registration data by age cohort, multiply the curve by some coefficients to make it plausible, and report that as the result. If the coefficients are known, a recount can &quot;independently&quot; be designed to come up with the same numbers. No network access is needed to produce completely controlled results. The network access thing is a red herring. There are more sophisticated ways to generate the numbers the powers that be want without raising eyebrows.
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neilvalmost 2 years ago
Are the nutty people and manipulators <i>discrediting</i> legitimate concerns about electronic voting machines?<p>I think it would be better if they limited their sabotage to UFOs, and french fries, and other things less fundamental to our society.
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kotaKatalmost 2 years ago
Oh, cool! Free drones with (probably) Rapsberry Pis attached! I&#x27;ll bring my net when I go vote.
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mikestewalmost 2 years ago
So...make sure all of my voting machines are hard-wired Cat6 to a router that has no radio transmitters? I mean, how hard did they think about...oh...nevermind.<p>I sometimes wish I had the lack of integrity to look for opportunities like this and exploit them. Sell snake oil to those who are <i>actively looking</i> for snake oil. OTOH, a life lived with some degree of integrity (hey, I&#x27;m not perfect) has served me well enough so far.
sharikousalmost 2 years ago
Making open source, transparent, auditable, voting machines that can be trusted to be secure and are more efficient than physical counting is a very interesting challenge.<p>A challenge that I am sure politicians are not very interested in solving.<p>Why spending so much to gain the trust of your citizens if most people know nothing about cryptography anyway?
ThinkingGuyalmost 2 years ago
I guess nobody&#x27;s told him about MAC address randomization.<p>(not that gathering SSIDs and MACs from random people in the vicinity who happen to have Wi-Fi on their devices has any value in detecting election fraud, anyway)
whoitwasalmost 2 years ago
Why&#x27;s the drone required?
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crawsomeover 1 year ago
Why is anyone giving this guy oxygen. He&#x27;s been laughed off the natural stage for years.
bdcravensalmost 2 years ago
Is he giving this contract to the Cyber Ninjas too?
linuxftwalmost 2 years ago
I don&#x27;t believe the elections have any amount of integrity in the US. The system of controls in place are laughable at best. When the physical recount doesn&#x27;t match the voting day totals, the original totals are kept (see Jill Stein vs Hillary in 2016). It&#x27;s just pathetic all the way around.<p>That said, Mike Lindell is a fraud charlatan. The fact that Trump hitched his wagon, directly or indirectly, to clowns like him shows how weak of a statesman he really is. I agreed with many of Trump&#x27;s policies, but his ability to execute is pitiful.
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