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Why I'm building Nilai - A simple bookmarking service

43 pointsby cdevroeabout 13 years ago

12 comments

kijinabout 13 years ago
Typo on the front page: "intension" should be "intention". You don't want to confuse all those philosophy majors out there :)<p>I'm looking at your screenshot [1] right now, and one question comes to mind: How are users going to organize their bookmarks on Nilai? The drop-down design shown in the screenshot reminds me of Gmail's labels, which will turn into a mess once you go beyond a certain number of tags/categories. Besides, everyone else uses the same organization system and similar features. Why should I try Nilai when I've already paid a one-time fee to Pinboard?<p>Well, here's one possible reason. Just the other day, I was trying to import my browser bookmarks into Pinboard, but aborted when I realized that Pinboard would not preserve the elaborate folder hierarchy (270+ folders) that I'd created over the years to organize my 5600+ bookmarks, many of which I never tagged. If there's any non-social bookmarking service that allows me to use <i>both</i> folders/subfolders <i>and</i> tags/labels to organize my bookmarks, I'll sign up in an instant. This isn't about fancy features, it's about basic paradigms. So there's a little feature request!<p>[1] <a href="http://nilai.co/assets/images/screenshot_desktop.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://nilai.co/assets/images/screenshot_desktop.jpg</a>
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zackzackzackabout 13 years ago
Glad he mentioned pinboard. idlewords expressed a similar sentiment a few months back. <a href="http://blog.pinboard.in/2011/12/don_t_be_a_free_user/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.pinboard.in/2011/12/don_t_be_a_free_user/</a><p>EDIT: Correct user.
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jarofgreenabout 13 years ago
Why not go Open Source?<p>It's just that you repeatedly mention that your main aim is to have a service that will last for ever; but there's nothing different in your service (apart from your intentions) that will guarantee that. Basically, your asking people to trust you on that one.<p>But if it was Open Source, with good import/export features, then if it was threatened by closure people could just move their data to another service using the same software (techy ppl could even run their own server).<p>I'm sure there are already open source bookmarking services; why not just help one of those instead of reinventing the wheel?<p>Of course, the business model for making money from Open Source is completely different. But from your stated intentions, that's not your aim.
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vladimirmabout 13 years ago
I checked out the site and while the comps you have there seem nice, I don't see what makes it different from other bookmarking services.
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sidmanabout 13 years ago
The name got me straight away, i wondered if it was someone from indonesia who was building it because i recognized the name as having the meaning of "value" in indonesian (as you mentioned) and what do you know ... its close :).<p>Good luck with it, hope it goes well. And salam to your dad from one who also has roots in bandung !
cdevroeabout 13 years ago
Just an FYI for anyone still tracking this discussion. Today I released Smart Labels <a href="http://cdevroe.com/notes/nilai-smartlabels/" rel="nofollow">http://cdevroe.com/notes/nilai-smartlabels/</a>
naradabout 13 years ago
"... cool to name the service an Indonesian word. Nilai is pronounced (as best as I can tell) Nee’-lie. It is an Indonesian word meaning mark."<p>Nilai means "a place" in Tamil, a language in South India. It has also many meanings. <a href="http://tamil.indiandictionaries.com/meaning.php?id=12587&#38;lang=Tamil" rel="nofollow">http://tamil.indiandictionaries.com/meaning.php?id=12587&#38...</a>
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rvrvabout 13 years ago
Very simple system. It's so simple you dont even need to use any credentials on login page. Just click login and you ready to go :-)
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toadiabout 13 years ago
He mentions pinboard. the idea of pinboard is the same: no free users. So we have more trust in this service sticking around for the long haul. Also it's simple.<p>Maybe he should make a small table first listing the differentiating facts between his service and Delicious and Pinboard.<p>It's just not clear and I fear he will scratch his itch alone...
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jonespenabout 13 years ago
Protip: Put class "btn btn-primary" on the login button. Ref <a href="http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/base-css.html#buttons" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/base-css.html#buttons</a>
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recroadabout 13 years ago
I like that you have aspirations here, but can the developer please provide some points about how this service will be different than the rest in terms of features.
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redguavaabout 13 years ago
I am too distracted by the N in your logo looking like a Z on it's side.<p>Is that intentional?
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