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An Old Conjecture Falls, Making Spheres a Lot More Complicated

129 pointsby spekcularover 1 year ago

12 comments

e12eover 1 year ago
I enjoy this way more pretending it's the prelude to a Philip K Dick or H P Lovecraft story - than trying to actually grasp the math :)
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billfruitover 1 year ago
The gossipy narrative style of the article is kind of jarring for an article on a topic like this. It took several paragraphs before it touched on the matter.
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ykonstantover 1 year ago
The following slides contain a more concrete description of the conjecture, its motivation and consequences: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;people.math.rochester.edu&#x2F;faculty&#x2F;doug&#x2F;Talks&#x2F;Glasgow-2022.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;people.math.rochester.edu&#x2F;faculty&#x2F;doug&#x2F;Talks&#x2F;Glasgow...</a>
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xeckrover 1 year ago
&gt;(think of a 100-dimensional sphere)<p>Cheeky.
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xtajvover 1 year ago
I&#x27;m terrible - one might even go so far as to say that the telescope conjecture has <i>collapsed</i>.
datavirtueover 1 year ago
The first sentence should have been the ball-is-equal-to-egg explanation with mention of topology. Before that I had no idea what they were talking about.<p>P.s. I have to assume the rules forbid shapes with surfaces of zero thickness. Otherwise I can just smash a ball into an inner-tube. If the shapes have thickness mandated, what is it? Are the thickness of the surfaces a consideration when morphing from one shape to another? Is the surface thickness negative or positive from zero? All of these questions stem from my experience in 3D modeling where these parameters must be defined.
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bryanrasmussenover 1 year ago
&gt;Infinitely more maps from spheres to telescopes means infinitely more maps between spheres themselves. The number of such maps is finite for any difference in dimension, but the new proof shows that the number grows quickly and inexorably.<p>is it actually infinitely - or just a lot?
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pbhjpbhjover 1 year ago
Lost me at the end, but, don&#x27;t inner-tubes have 2 holes (genus 2), topologically: one for inflation and one for the wheel to fit in. This makes them distinct from a torus (genus 1) and no homotopy exists between them.<p>Clearly IANAM.
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dclowd9901over 1 year ago
&gt; It means that in very high dimensions (think of a 100-dimensional sphere)<p>Sure, no problem, author.
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wwarnerover 1 year ago
What a great read. Exotic spheres are the dark energy of mathematics.
iraqmtpizzaover 1 year ago
do they call them all spheres just to pretend that their work is relevant? I&#x27;ve heard from captain beyond that everything&#x27;s a circle, but this is one step too far. a 100-dimensional non-uniform egg is not a sphere in any possible way. why is it not called an n-manifold or something like that
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Eduardover 1 year ago
what is this good for?<p>please no knee-jerk &#x27;this is pure mathematics, it doesn&#x27;t need applicability&#x27; answers.
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