As a loyal and long-time user of the original Procreate app (I bought my iPad basically exclusively to use it), and someone who's been interested in animation for a long time but too intimidated by the software to ever really get into making it myself, I'm <i>extremely</i> excited about this. If they can bring even a fraction of the usability and user-friendliness Procreate has to Procreate Dreams, I could easily see myself sinking many, many hours into it.<p>As soon as this was announced I instantly sent it to all my artist and animator friends, I think this is going to be a wildly popular app.
$20 one time purchase, I think I'll be getting this at release. I understand the subscription model but for things like this that I will probably play with for a bit then possibly not come back to for a few months I don't want to have to feel like I'm getting utility from my subscription, I just have it, whenever I want.
"No subscriptions. Just $19.99 USD. Available November 22."<p>I was sold at "No subscriptions". I'm buying this November 22 and putting a day off in my calendar.
I want to point out that there is an excellent existing iPad app from a small developer called Callipeg, that has most of the same feature set described here (maybe everything except the effects features)<p>I've had a great experience animating in Callipeg with both cell animation and transform animation.<p>It is true though that Procreate is the gold standard for drawing apps, and the drawing functionality in Callipeg isn't as polished- So I will be tempted to switch to this new app for animation, if they can match the drawing experience from the core Procreate product.
Hell yeah!<p>Even if this app is problematic from a cross-platform or usability standpoint, the fact that people are making real investments in re-thinking our design tools for different contexts is very exciting. I can't wait until we get some better audio, video, drawing, and animation apps built with mobile in mind from the ground-up that AREN'T indie silos of interactive design and file formats. I know people will be itchy to give me some recommendations here, but I'm cynical about it because everything I've seen, so far, is "neat but not for team/studio production" for some reason or another. So it's nice to see something that is absolutely certain about how these things actually get used in the industries, and is willing to strike a new path, while focusing on what is required for industry interoperability.<p>Once other people start picking up on this idea, we might get some really awesome new ways for people without specific domain knowledge to be as creative in their output as they are in their own heads. That will be pretty awesome, I think!
This looks amazing. Over the last year, I’ve gone from a casual Disney/Ghibli fan, to a really deep lover of hand-drawn animation. The expressiveness and attention to detail are astounding.<p>I also really like really smooth and intuitive interfaces, the iPad in particular is extremely natural (albeit at the things it’s designed to do well.)<p>Inside I’m kind of nerding out at the combination of my two loves, I have zero artistic talent, but I will buy this immediately. Maybe I can learn to have ~some artistic talent.
This looks phenomenal. The Savage Interactive team have such great thought about doing UX for iPad and Pencil, that they've really captured the mobile artist market.<p>I used to do 2D animation, and this is what so many people have been hoping Toon Boom would release instead of their half hearted approaches to tablet (not iPad strictly) interfaces in the past.<p>I think this will be really well received, though given the more niche skillset needed, I doubt it'll be as popular as regular ProCreate<p>and only $20? That's just a killer value proposition. Competing commercial apps are so much more expensive, and free apps leave a lot to desire for iPad interaction.<p>I know a ton of artists who bought an iPad Air or Pro just for ProCreate. I can see a lot of my animator friends doing the same now too for this.
Take. My. Money.<p>Not for me, but my eldest picked up procreate recently and was immediately able to create all sorts of amazing things. She’s even been able to create some great animations, but this makes procreate look like a toy in that regard.<p>Feels a lot like ableton live with the way they’ve been able to reinject the playfulness into creating on a screen. Love it.
Reminds me of Bret Victor's lovely talk Inventing on Principle: <a href="https://youtu.be/PUv66718DII" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://youtu.be/PUv66718DII</a><p>Looking forward to give a try.
Super exciting, procreate is such an awesome program. Bold move of making it portrait. I bought my iPad a long time ago for procreate, best purchase I’ve done. It reawakened illustration for me. Curious what we can make with this. Although I can’t find the minimum requirements anywhere yet.
The naming is almost as a bad a new place in weed-legal santa fe ("Baked & Brew" ... no, that's baked goods, no marijuana products).<p>I mean, at least go for CamelCase ... ProCreate is sort of clear (and said in its own way). Procreate is ... weird.
Found this video of Alex Kunchevsky animating a butterfly in Dreams. If this is how the process actually works, then I could see Dreams being very popular. Simple and intuitive.<p><a href="https://twitter.com/kunchevsky/status/1697439424311853252" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://twitter.com/kunchevsky/status/1697439424311853252</a><p>Of course, I could also see edge cases where the simple & intuitive get in the way of what the artist actually wants to do. Will be interesting to see how it pans out in practice.
Really curious to get more info on that file format. Seems like it’s structured as a database and has internal addressing schemes and embedded caching structures to allow for partial IO. The idea of persistent history implies that it records changes as events, which is a good fit for an LSM. In any case it must be a container format, as an LSM alone would not suffice, perhaps it could be a filesystem volume disguised as a file with Apple specific tech behind it.
There's been a lack of silly solo-made animation content on the web ever since Flash went away. Wonder if this could start a new era of kids making fun things.
Australia keeps producing some of these banger softwares. Best in class. Procreate, Sublime Text. I don't know why the government feels so mismatched though.
From the title, I thought Procreate was coming out with another crappy stable diffusion-derived AI image generator. Thank god that's not the case. Very excited for this.
Side note -- although it's noted by many people here -- to say that I'm very pleased to see ... some? seeming pushback against subscription-based models.<p>The other example that comes to mind for a very polished and well loved app is Koala (a great audio sampler/sequencer) [0], which sells for a flat $4.99.<p>Subscriptions have advantages of course, such as providing developers with a more sustained income vs one time purchases which necessarily mean a diminishing hourly rate when you take into account indefinite support.<p>But still. I'm hopeful.<p>[0] <a href="https://www.koalasampler.com/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.koalasampler.com/</a>
I feel like they have neglected Procreate proper for a while now. A lot of the things they've added in the 5.x line are niche, while major features are ignored.<p>Organic brushes (natural media like oil and watercolor behavior, not just controls like jitter) are still MIA, for example. And several more things.<p>And Dreams is more of a diversion. Only a small fraction of users would be interested in animation.<p>But they of course know that they will get those $19.99 anyway, out of curiosity, even if most Procreate users are going to rarely or never really use Dreams.
I love the enthusiasm in the comments. I have no expertise, but I have some interest in animation. I’ve never heard of procreate. Can someone share a link to examples using this tool?
I wonder if there's any chance of a beta programme? I literally just wrapped principle photography on a short film that has a bunch of animated elements I'm going to have to figure out how to do for budgetary reasons. Love ProCreate and this looks like a fascinating tool. November is quite a while away!
This is huge, I've been looking for a non-subscription animation tool for ipad. Day one buy.<p>I only have one gripe: I wish project management in procreate was more robust. Even stacks within stacks would be an improvement. But right now my projects are a scattered mess and there's nothing I can do.
If this works as well as the promo material, then this is hella cool software. I'm not in the world of 2D animation any more, but I've sent the link to a few people I know that are that this might have flew under they're radar. Waiting to hear back responses.
I will check this out. I currently use the excellent ToonSquid, but I really like Procreate for drawing.<p>ToonSquid does a really cool thing where their flashy marketing video turns out to be a demo project in the app you can look at and edit. Really good for getting underway quickly.
I know there's a lot of appetite to discuss this but it isn't released yet, so the thread can only go so deep. We want to have space for discussion once the product is out, so downweighting this thread is probably best.
I was hoping their big announcement was going to be Procreate for PC, but I'm happy for all the people out there who will benefit from better accessible tools.