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Psycho and the end of the continuously showing movie

88 pointsby ZeljkoSover 1 year ago

12 comments

ilamontover 1 year ago
I managed a small movie theater in the 1980s (and was also the projectionist, see <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35887809">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35887809</a>). By that time, audiences were conditioned to follow the posted schedules in the lobby and newspapers. The businesses (many of them parts of corporate chains) were structured to <i>not</i> deviate from the schedules - booth staffing, employees&#x27; work schedules, theater cleanings, and other tasks were keyed to it. Customers were expected to show up within 15 minutes before the starting time, and leave when the house lights came up.<p>If a customer came really late and asked to stay to see the start of the next showing we would have let them but it would be regarded as weird. It&#x27;s a linear story - what&#x27;s the point of watching the beginning if you already know what happens at the end? And who wants to sit around for 15 minutes while the theater is cleaned?<p>Tangential: When we first got <i>Hunt For Red October</i> another projectionist spliced the reels wrong. Each film came in octagonal cans, typically six 20 minute sections, before they were manually spliced together on two bigger reels of about an hour apiece. IIRC sections 5 and 6 were switched. People complained ... but no one wanted to stay to watch it again in the proper order.<p>ETA: Come to think of it, there <i>was</i> an audience segment which seldom followed posted movie schedules: porn.<p>In the 80s, there were still porn theaters in the seedier parts of town (for Boston, it was the &quot;Combat Zone&quot; on the edge of Chinatown) with films running all day and night and people could come and go as they pleased. Not many were interested in linear stories. I didn&#x27;t work in that part of the business, but the old guy who licensed me for the state indicated that the bulk of his licensing work was down there. This was pre-WWW and not everyone had VCRs, and even if you did the only way to get tapes was via specialty stores in the Zone or sketchy mail order operations.
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kejover 1 year ago
The continuous movie was the source of one of my dad&#x27;s favorite movie experiences. He and his friends arrived late to The Manchurian Candidate and missed an important scene, so they spent the rest of the time trying to piece together what had happened until the &quot;big reveal&quot; on the next showing. It turned a suspense movie into a full on mystery.<p>Before streaming you used to get a similar experience on basic cable channels where they would play the same movie a few times in a row. I remember first seeing The Shawshank Redemption that way.
Cthulhu_over 1 year ago
I uh, don&#x27;t understand why this isn&#x27;t a thing anymore though; the cinemas over here have multiple rooms, they could have one room just show short films, making-ofs, documentaries, etc on a loop, even better if they have it near the entrance so people can just come in and watch for a bit for free (with the intent being that they buy food &#x2F; drink, buy a ticket for a full film, or use it to wait for their own film.) I&#x27;d argue more time spent at the cinema is good, if not from a business, then from a social point of view.<p>But then I&#x27;m sure it wouldn&#x27;t be sustainable because teenage kids would take the piss in between or after classes, make a mess, etc.
jaimebueltaover 1 year ago
I remember when I was a kid in Spain (in the late 80s, perhaps up to early 90s) cinemas where this was still possible. You could enter at any time, watch the movie, and even remain and watch it a second time if you want. It was also only advertised when the first pass started, but not any other one.<p>Available movies will be slightly older ones, like 6-months after premier or something like that. And they were a few particular theatres, that only run movies in that way.<p>I remember watching Return of the Jedi that way, arriving right before the fleet meets and they brief the Endor mission, so it was a good point to get into the movie anyway.
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NoZebra120vClipover 1 year ago
A few years ago, I kind of wondered about this, and mused whether I could stay for a second showing in a theater, or if I&#x27;d be shown the door. It would&#x27;ve mattered years ago, when I was homeless, and sometimes purchased a ticket to see a good film, and sometimes missed most of that film because I just wanted to sleep instead.<p>But a recent change has definitively killed this idea: reserved seating. Reserved seating was never a thing in these United States, not in the major cities where I lived. You showed up at the box office and it was General Admission for any seats you could take, first-come, first-served.<p>But a few years ago, I became aware of an independent theater nearby which had reserved seating. And sometime in the past 12 months, reserved seating has been introduced as standard to both major chains that dominate my hometown.<p>So if your ticket is purchased for a specific seat at a specific showing, there&#x27;s no way you could argue that you could stay in that seat, or any other, for the next showing, or show up early for the prior showing. You won&#x27;t necessarily get challenged, but now there&#x27;s an extra risk of someone else who belongs to that seat, especially in a popular film.<p>Movie theaters are currently struggling to reinvent themselves, and they&#x27;re risking obsolescence as more blockbusters go straight-to-streaming, and direct-to-video isn&#x27;t such a dirty word anymore. It&#x27;s a miracle that they bounced back after the pandemic. They are now hosting live video-game events, a live Taylor Swift concert, classic films on a weekly basis, and other creative auditorium uses: I believe that your company can have a teleconference in there, too.<p>My local theater recently added a full bar. Alcohol at the movies wasn&#x27;t a thing when I grew up. The first time I had a beer and a movie, it was in Barcelona. So far, I have not been subjected to any drunken disruptions, but the floors remain sticky as always.
twicover 1 year ago
Maybe we don&#x27;t watch films like this any more, but this is akin to how one consumes an immersive theatre experience like the ones Punchdrunk puts on. The structure of those is quite different, and designed to be engaged with like this, though.
edgarvaldesover 1 year ago
Pretty common in Mexico in the 80s and early 90s. It was called &quot;Permanencia voluntaria&quot;. I remember a showing with the new Robocop 1 and 2, and another one with Hot Shots 1 and Deux.
tux1968over 1 year ago
I&#x27;m guessing we&#x27;ll return to the continuously showing movie. Well, more like the starting-any-time-you-want movie. As individual VR headsets are available in every seat, you could start the movie synchronized with just the people in your own party. Of course, there will have to be technological and&#x2F;or social advantages over doing the same thing in your own home.
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bryanrasmussenover 1 year ago
how often though did this happen? I watch a lot of old movies, I don&#x27;t feel that generally I would have liked to walk in halfway through - I would have preferred asking when does the movie start and coming in at that time.<p>that the setup of the business allowed the practice I don&#x27;t doubt, that the practice was really widespread I do doubt.
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yankputover 1 year ago
Nowadays people randomly start watching TikTok and YouTube on their phones in the theatre, we are looping back
verve_ratover 1 year ago
Huh. I&#x27;ve wondered where the &quot;No one will be seated after the X&quot; meme came from.
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tzsover 1 year ago
If movie theaters ever go back to that M. Night Shyamalan is going to need a new career.
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