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AWS IPv4 Estate Now Worth $4.5B

252 pointsby atyvrover 1 year ago

25 comments

bradley13over 1 year ago
Can we go back in time and hit the designers of IPv6 upside the head? The decision not to make IPv6 backwards compatible, the belief that a beautiful new standard could magically replace something already so widespread...<p>&quot;Naive&quot; is an inadequate word. We are <i>still</i> futzing with the transition 3 decades later, with no end in sight. Grrr, grumble...
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Narkovover 1 year ago
A subtle detail from the article is that address prices peaked in 2021 at $60 and has steadily decreased to $35. Where does it go from here? Is this a proxy for the tech correction?
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mbgerringover 1 year ago
We should probably consider whether the rent-seeking enabled by the scarcity of IPV4 addresses is one of the things holding back IPV6 adoption.
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Gigachadover 1 year ago
Hopefully hosting providers putting an actual price on v4 usage will be the push that gets things rolling to v6.
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vaylianover 1 year ago
GitHub.com still doesn&#x27;t support IPv6. I know that there is some work going on to support it, but this shows that it is far from trivial.
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atyvrover 1 year ago
correct, direct url is <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;toonk.io&#x2F;aws-ipv4-estate-now-worth-4-5-billion&#x2F;index.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;toonk.io&#x2F;aws-ipv4-estate-now-worth-4-5-billion&#x2F;index...</a> More interestingly, perhaps, is a forward look at how much new revenue AWS will generate once AWS starts charging ($44 per IP per year) as of 2024. I think it&#x27;s not unlikely that AWS will generate a few hundred million to a billion in additional revenue with this new charge.
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hktover 1 year ago
What I&#x27;m taking from this: switch to IPv6 and you can do a little bit to devalue an asset held by AWS.<p>Honestly, I&#x27;ve never had such a strong incentive.
yla92over 1 year ago
Some noob questions here.<p>How does one buy a block of IPv4 as an individual? (If that&#x27;s allowed)<p>After you purchase it, how does it come into your possession?<p>How do you utilize them?
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leohover 1 year ago
fwiw, ATT charges me $15 for ~8 fixed ipv4 addresses on my gigabit plan. Even if we amortize against the total monthly bill of $113, we get ~$15 per IP.<p>EDIT: I guess this is the cost to _rent_ an IP per month and not the cost of _owning_ an IPv4 address.
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brodouevencodeover 1 year ago
Does the cost of migrating to IPv6 exceed the cost of buying up large swaths of IPv4 addresses?
malikNFover 1 year ago
Question for the networking folk here. How can the rest of us help move things over to ipv6?
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ChrisArchitectover 1 year ago
Update link to actual article link: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;toonk.io&#x2F;aws-ipv4-estate-now-worth-4-5-billion&#x2F;index.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;toonk.io&#x2F;aws-ipv4-estate-now-worth-4-5-billion&#x2F;index...</a>
nfRfqX5nover 1 year ago
Extremely surprised that I could load that massive json list of ips on my phone instantly
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anonymous344over 1 year ago
can I buy one ipv4 for myself somehow. not lease or rent, buy ?
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quickthrower2over 1 year ago
What is the IP &quot;ownership&quot; model? is $35 to &quot;own&quot; the IP. What is the law around this (do companies contest who owns what IP)
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epolanskiover 1 year ago
ELI5, why are IPv4 addresses so precious?
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dredmorbiusover 1 year ago
IPv4 address space was the actual bitcoin...
j_thirkleover 1 year ago
Is it possible that someone could start some kind of IPv4 ETF? Would be interesting to see - call it the Web 1.0 ETF.
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xvilkaover 1 year ago
IPv4 is the new Bitcoin.
petarbover 1 year ago
Can someone please ELI5?
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WesolyKubeczekover 1 year ago
Here’s your new cryptocurrency, all hail IPv4Coin!
throw0101bover 1 year ago
IPv6 Excuse Bingo:<p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ipv6bingo.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ipv6bingo.com</a>
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andromatonover 1 year ago
Which divided by approximately 3.7 billion routeable addresses works out to about $1&#x2F;address.
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tamrixover 1 year ago
I can promise you no one is paying $35 per IPv4 address.
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unethical_banover 1 year ago
What&#x27;s the thought on Amazon stock price? Is their dominance of the web built in to their price or does it have room for significant growth in the next 5-10 years?