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Richard Stallman reveals he has cancer in the GNU 40 Hacker Meeting talk [video]

1366 pointsby fury999ioover 1 year ago

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newscrackerover 1 year ago
I hope he’s able to manage it well (since the prognosis is good) and is around for a lot longer.<p>We need absolutists like him who go to extremes and are known widely. For a few moments, leave aside his personality and what people have said about his behavior or hygiene. If he hadn’t been there, our world would’ve been a lot different and a lot poorer. A visionary is what he was and is.<p>While the Free part of FOSS is being substituted by “(just) open source” and “source available”, while DRM goes deeper into our lives, and while everything is becoming a “hosted service”, one can only hope for (and put efforts into) going back to the ideals he proposed and pushing back on the elements that control us and seek to do even more so.<p>We all don’t have to be absolutists (it comes at the cost of convenience, which most people prefer), but there are enough of such people around the world as far as FOSS is concerned. Whenever I see FOSS meetups and people connecting over it, that’s something I’m grateful for and wholeheartedly support (though I’m not one of them).
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tusharheroover 1 year ago
I had emailed stallman about this.<p>My email:<p>Greetings Dr. Stallman,<p>First of all, Happy 40th GNUversary!<p>I was not able to attend the GNU40 meeting in Switzerland, but I have heard rumours that you have announced that you have some form of cancer.<p>Can you give me some more information about this? And is the cancer manageable?<p>I hope you are around for many more years.<p>--- tusharhero<p>Stallman&#x27;s reply:<p>[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden&#x27;s example. ]]]<p>I&#x27;m glad you are concerned about my well being. At the same time, I am disappointed that people are spreading incomplete rumors, instead of passing along all of what I said about this. That is going to waste a lot of people&#x27;s time and concern, just as it has done with you.<p>My prognosis is good. I can expect to live many more years.<p>-- Dr Richard Stallman (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stallman.org" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;stallman.org</a>) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gnu.org" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gnu.org</a>) Founder, Free Software Foundation (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fsf.org" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fsf.org</a>) Internet Hall-of-Famer (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;internethalloffame.org" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;internethalloffame.org</a>)
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PostOnceover 1 year ago
Stallman&#x27;s character is one of the reasons I have repeatedly considered establishing some kind of &quot;Church of Computing&quot;, i.e. an organized &quot;religion&quot; solely to secure religious protections and rights as they apply to the modern world.<p>For example, the right not to have to use some random company&#x27;s app to interact with a government agency or a public school (and agree to said company&#x27;s EULA, etc). It only takes a few dozen people to create a church with legal standing in many countries.<p>The FSF and the EFF are nice, but churches have additional legal protection for their adherents.<p>It does sort of vaguely border on religious zeal at this point. I&#x27;ve told companies they can either talk to me on Signal (or email), wait til I arrive on site, or find another contractor, but I will not use WhatsApp no matter how much they pay. This also applies to, for example, Microsoft&#x2F;Google&#x2F;Amazon products where learning their APIs and products mean my human capital, my skills, can be revoked by someone I never met, made valueless, my income made moot, in a sense.<p>Imagine having invested substantial time and effort into a proprietary ecosystem that was killed (by the company or its competition) and not being able to quickly leap into a competing esoteric, obtuse product.
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tharakamover 1 year ago
̛If you check the surroundings, you will see the mess we are in. Virtually (?) there are 0 options for a viable IoT platform, mobile&#x2F;desktop OS that doesn&#x27;t annoy us. It could be privacy, locking, you name it, ...<p>Only recently, I happen to realise, we could have listened to this man little more. Too late then, we are sold already.<p>Recover well Mr Stallman! I wish you the best!
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0xcb0over 1 year ago
This is so sad to hear! I wish him all the best and hope he can recover.<p>I think he is one of the most influential persons in the last decades, not only regarding GNU or FreeSoftware but also about technology overall. While sadly at the same time lots of people underestimate his works and foreseeing.<p>He has really been and still is an inspiration for me. Really all the best to him!!
coffeemugover 1 year ago
The man saw nearly half a century ahead, and then did something about it. Wish him the best of luck, and, hopefully, full recovery.
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jraphover 1 year ago
Here he is, 70, under chemo, giving a speech. He keeps being a force of nature.<p>May he recover well, or at least have long enjoyable years ahead.<p>He has&#x2F;had arguable&#x2F;unacceptable behavior, but I believe we strongly owe him. He has built incredible software, defined important stuff and kicked our asses in the right direction.
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smudgyover 1 year ago
I talked with him briefly some 20+ years ago and he showed me his laptop with Free software. As I was younger back then I found it quaint but as I sit here and realize I&#x27;m doing something in the same vein, doing things thanks to a mountain of Free software.<p>As I am prone to do when I&#x27;m brought back to that moment where I was just chatting with <i>the</i> RMS, I smile and wonder how many other dumb college compsci kids were exposed to a different kind of way of doing things that basically changed their lives.<p>Get well soon Mr. Stallman!
yuraover 1 year ago
RMS is one of the most amazing individuals that I know of, and has certainly changed my life forever. I wish he stays many more years in this world.
DonHopkinsover 1 year ago
Here&#x27;s what another great free software project leader Ton Roosendaal said about his experience with cancer, the lessons he learned, and the implications on leadership continuity of free software projects, in his 2020 BlenderCon closing address.<p>Richard Stallman has certainly been successful inspiring Ton and others to do great work and carry the flame! I hope he has access to excellent healthcare, and is as lucky as Ton.<p>Can we just take a moment to appreciate Ton Roosendaal:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;blender&#x2F;comments&#x2F;jlaxaf&#x2F;can_we_just_take_a_moment_to_appreciate_ton&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;blender&#x2F;comments&#x2F;jlaxaf&#x2F;can_we_just...</a><p>&quot;Money doesn&#x27;t interest me&quot; - Ton Roosendaal interview:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=qJEWOTZnFeg">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=qJEWOTZnFeg</a><p>BlenderCon 2020 closing address transcript:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24951703">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24951703</a><p>DonHopkins on Oct 31, 2020 | parent | context | favorite | on: Can we just take a moment to appreciate Ton Roosen...<p>It&#x27;s well worth watching and discussing the entire video, including Ton&#x27;s introduction and close, bracketing all the amazing contributions by blender artists and developers:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24951550">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24951550</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=uEjmbsiflMU">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=uEjmbsiflMU</a><p>I think he saved the important personal news to discuss at the end, so it didn&#x27;t distract from the virtual conference&#x27;s focus on Blender itself, its community, and developers.<p>Ton is an unstoppable lucky force of nature: First he survived a vicious ceiling attack, now he survived leukemia!<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=eJwG-qt-sgk&amp;ab_channel=Blender">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=eJwG-qt-sgk&amp;ab_channel=Blend...</a><p>In the introduction, Ton says that it has been a year of introspection and renewal, and describes how the Blender organization has been restructured.<p>That&#x27;s followed by a series of mind blowing videos by a diverse worldwide bunch of talented Blender artists and developers.<p>In his closing statement, Ton tells what has happened to him in the past months, explains his change of perspective, and the implication and changes at the Blender Foundation.<p>Ton Roosendaal&#x27;s BCON2020 Blender Conference closing address transcript:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;uEjmbsiflMU?t=5427" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;uEjmbsiflMU?t=5427</a><p>I think it is a quite common effect in films.<p>Imagine, you are standing in the middle of a waterfall.<p>It is noisy, it is messy, it is colorful, it is wet.<p>You see everything is falling down.<p>Suddenly stops, the jets are coming down.<p>You see a bit of splashes.<p>You are standing there in the darkness.<p>On a black mirror.<p>That&#x27;s how it feels when the doctor tells you that you have leukemia.<p>On February 24th, this year I was urgently hospitalized because I was developing bruises all over my body.<p>I started to bleed on my mouth.<p>The doctor said go to the hospital. Ton, we have to examine you.<p>At midnight I got the infamous bad news delivery by the doctor that I have acute leukemia of the quite rare kind.<p>It is called APL, which is not very common, but it is very lethal.<p>So usually you don&#x27;t survive two weeks with this, unless, of course, the treatment works.<p>So that&#x27;s what happened.<p>They immediately gave me blood transfusions and chemotherapy, and luckily after a few days I was recovering.<p>So I quickly moved from the critical phase to the phase of that you may get cured.<p>Four weeks later I was released from the hospital.<p>I was strong enough to join the rest of the world in the ... lockdown, staying at home.<p>After five weeks I had my first bone marrow test, which was extremely good.<p>And cancer was in remission, the doctor said. We are going to take you to the next phase, to cure you fully.<p>And that&#x27;s called the maintenance phase.<p>Maintenance, right?<p>Then he said, well ... actually it is 7 months of treatments in which you have to be four months in hospital.<p>Not full time. But imagine in the afternoon you go to the hospital, they hook you up with the bag of poison, you wait three hours, you get sick, you go home, go to bed, in the morning you feel a little bit better.<p>And in the afternoon you go back to the hospital.<p>They hook you up, and you get sick again.<p>That&#x27;s for 4 weeks, and then you get 4 weeks to recover, another 4 weeks getting sick, and 4 weeks to recover, another 4 weeks to get sick, another 4 weeks to recover, another 4 weeks to get sick!<p>It was last Friday, the last of the chemotherapy.<p>And this morning I went to the doctor again to discuss the tests I had.<p>And luckily my blood is fantastic, the bone marrow is looking really good, I could be declared cured.<p>But there was one little test they are still waiting, is the DNA test, which will take another 2 weeks to get.<p>But the doctor said I shouldn&#x27;t worry about that.<p>I&#x27;m recovering extremely well.<p>So basically I&#x27;ve got my life back<p>So ...<p>And oh, how much I would have loved to sit together, today, at the conference with everyone because there would have been a conference and we would have thrown an enormous party not this year.<p>So I&#x27;m telling you this because this whole experience has had a profound impact on me, on my personality, on my life of course, plus I had time to think.<p>And I learned a couple of lessons.<p>First, getting cancer and surviving it it is not a fight. It is not something you win, something you lose.<p>You only need one thing. A little bit of discipline of course, to take care of yourself, eat well, do some exercises.<p>But what you need is luck.<p>And I was lucky.<p>I was lucky that science found the right treatment for me.<p>This is only 15 years old. This treatment for people with this kind of leukemia.<p>I was lucky to have family, friends around me to stand by.<p>I was lucky to have a team here in the company to stand by and to have.<p>Francesco Siddi to replace me for 8 months, doing fantastic job on it.<p>So I was lucky to live in the Netherlands, where there is a universal health care for everyone.<p>So there was not a moment that I had to worry about what would the treatment cost, and the doctors didn&#x27;t have a moment to think other than what can we do for Ton, to help him, to cure him, and to make it as good and easy as possible for him.<p>So next time if you see people having cancer, don&#x27;t wish them strength, or in Dutch &quot;sterkte&quot;, just say good luck, and I wish you well, or a good day, a good evening.<p>Other things that I learned was that I want to start taking better care of myself, and I want to, I have a feeling that I was sacrificing myself too much.<p>So I want to put myself more forward, and also take care better of myself in a way that I can pay myself a little bit better. So I can afford a little house outside of Amsterdam with a garden.<p>I also mentioned last year that at some moment I have to step aside from Blender, for the future, to allow other people to come in.<p>And the process is been sped up, but not so much that I want to step down, but to get very strong people around me to help making Blender strong, and keep it strong, and move on, and step forward.<p>Because the main thing I learned was that I was really really not ready to let that go.<p>I couldn&#x27;t let go of Blender, because that&#x27; s my life&#x27; s work.<p>Blender is life, right.<p>Blender is a community.<p>It is a team of people here.<p>It is everybody who is contributing.<p>It&#x27;s the developers.<p>The bug fixers.<p>It is the people that make add-ons.<p>It is even the people who complain, or the people use Maya and don&#x27;t like Blender.<p>It is the forum trolls.<p>And even the people who want to have the game engine back.<p>So all of them are the people I love.<p>And all of them I feel like is my family.<p>And I would never let go of that family.<p>So, enough drama, right?<p>I want to end with a little more happy note.<p>As you all know 2020 is not very nice.<p>It is a year that we are going to forget.<p>But the happy message is that 2020 didn&#x27;t get me down, and I want to spread that positive vibe with everyone.<p>So please take care of yourself, take care of each other, and a little bit of Blender.<p>And I see you next year in Amsterdam, or somewhere else.<p>Bye Bye!
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omgmajkover 1 year ago
I hope for a speedy recovery RMS.
mullikineover 1 year ago
Let&#x27;s pray for RMS:<p><pre><code> Father God in Heaven, Please heal Richard Stallman of the cancer afflicting his body, and give him a strong will to endure all of this to the end. Let him keep his health through this period of his life here on Earth, LORD. And let both him and his legacy continue shine the light of freedom and transparency and human decency in this world, which is getting so dark. And keep him healthy through his chemo, please God. And give him the joy of Your salvation through Jesus Christ, and the hope of life eternal. Save his soul, please God. And if it is Your will, even make him a saint in the church of Jesus Christ, Your Son. Heaven wont be the same without him. In Jesus Christ&#x27;s name I ask, Amen. </code></pre> I will continue to pray this for you RMS.
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freeqazover 1 year ago
Some type of Lymphoma that is being managed, he said in the video. Does anybody have any other info about this?
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jll29over 1 year ago
I wish RMS all the best for his health, a long and happy life.<p>I also know that if he reads this, it will be from an Emacs mail client on his dusty ThinkPad in text mode (no X11 or Wayland) by sending a URL to a service he wrote that will email him the Web page back - a clean process without any using any tainted proprietary software.<p>He only ever exchanged one sentence with me when we had dinner together with other computer scientists two decades ago in Edinburgh: &quot;I don&#x27;t do smalltalk.&quot; - and he didn&#x27;t mean the programming language. :)
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testermelonover 1 year ago
We are in dire need of succession. Can memories of his reasoning alone withstand the erosion of time in the mindshare of public discussion? I know FSF will codify stuffs and preserve things that are ideologically important. But without someone as strong-headed as him we will have a hard time defending freedom of software.
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sambeauover 1 year ago
Stallman, though not someone I’d want to deal with on a daily basis, is, I believe, a force for good in this world. We need terriers and geese honking and nipping the ankles of power.
tibbydudezaover 1 year ago
A divisive character and not the easiest to deal with and rather cranky and very set in his ways (his web browsing via an email - eish) but without his early efforts there would have not been the FSF and GNU and later Linux.<p>Right person at the right time - live long and prosper RMS.
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SillyUsernameover 1 year ago
I think I speak on behalf of everyone when I say...<p>fuck cancer.
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garba_dlmover 1 year ago
I think it&#x27;s impressive how he saw a danger, a possibility some 20 years before it was even a feasible technical reality<p>referring to his story of &quot;right to read&quot; or something like that about books being able to get deleted of your bookshelf... and then Amazon making this a reality some decades later
mgdover 1 year ago
Sad to hear this. I hope for a fast recovery. I wouldn&#x27;t have as much of an appreciation for free software had it not been for the FSF
Bright_Machineover 1 year ago
Computing world will be a darker place without him. I wish HN crowd and tech enthusiasts stop worshiping latest Apple and Google products and teach others to use free software.
honeybadger1over 1 year ago
Sad news, even sadder that his critics just can&#x27;t help themselves. He is greater than most, even if flawed.
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komeover 1 year ago
Richard Stallman changed the world, deeply. Everything we have around us is mostly because of him and his vision. FOSS keeps the world moving.<p>We need his vision to inspire us to keep inspiring. And to help us understand what is right and what is wrong.<p>I hope he will heal soon.
clbrmbrover 1 year ago
One day I got a call from RMS’s assistant asking if I could help sell books for FSF at a conference. Not even bothering to ask what kind of conference it was, I said “For Richard Stallman, anything!”<p>Two days later I found myself selling books alongside a self-described nomad and was approached by the leader of the communist party of Great Britain who shook my hand and said “I’m a big fan of your work.”<p>Was one of those surreal moments.
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jjiceover 1 year ago
While we joke that he&#x27;s been an oddball at times, he is one of the most influential people in all of modern computing. GNU&#x27;s impact on this industry can&#x27;t be understated. I wish him the best.
pvaldesover 1 year ago
It seems that we will have an Open Stallman finally, improved with all the non GPL code removed. I wish him the best and a good recovery. Richard, you can do this.
FredPretover 1 year ago
I hope he gets better soon.<p>The more the tech world develops and the more I learn, the more I start to like free &amp; open source tech.<p>I do think there will always be a a large and growing amount of space for paid software work, but the variety and quality of free software seems to go up and to the right over time.
Aspie96over 1 year ago
I have many disagreements with Richard Stallman. And I think he has many flaws.<p>But I think the world is better with him than without him and that he&#x27;s worked hard to further his mission. Not everyone should be like him, but it&#x27;s great that he is.<p>I sincerely wish RMS all the best.
max_over 1 year ago
This is so unfortunate. Cancer used to be something I would just hear other people getting until my Dad got it. The I understood that it was very real and that I can also be a victim.<p>Do you guys know of any ways to reduce your risks of getting cancer? I know not smoking tobacco works.<p>What foods, bad habits should one avoid. What other habits can reduce cancer risks?<p>Are there any prophylactic techniques?
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fury999ioover 1 year ago
Timestamp: 2:16
billy99kover 1 year ago
The video won&#x27;t play for me. What kind of cancer does he have?
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pkdpicover 1 year ago
He&#x27;s clearly a complicated figure but he was a big inspiration when I was transitioning into a tech career. I&#x27;ll be sending him good thoughts. &lt;3
vlugorillaover 1 year ago
RMS has been such an inspiration for me, he&#x27;s the reason I decided to contribute all my work to FOSS. I hope he can get better and continue with his life as usual!
pimpampumover 1 year ago
Ye should check Valter Longo and the Fast Mimicking Diet, it&#x27;s been tried for accompanying chemo and it helps both against side effects and with better outcomes.
tegmarkover 1 year ago
i hope he navigates this well and i hope he doesnt experience any pain but if people here are allowed to talk about his contribution then i should be able to do the same. i cant think of anyone who did more damage to software than him. his political zealotry, which didnt belong in a technical field, was very destructive.<p>because of the poisonous vitriol that responses will undoubtedly have, i wont be reading responses. dont even bother.
mid-kidover 1 year ago
So <i>that</i>&#x27;s why he was bald in the video. Fuck...
gregopetover 1 year ago
Fuck cancer.
TZubiriover 1 year ago
Fuck, I was hoping this moment wouldn&#x27;t come
User23over 1 year ago
Cancer is no joke even when the prognosis is good. He will be in my prayers, even though he’d probably find that silly.
kombaiover 1 year ago
The largest discussion in this thread is about politics;<p>The biggest tension at the GNU 40 years event was when an old Mr. was speaking about social economics and his attempts to make a local money in Basel (ch). Two american protagonists interrupted the speach telling it is too political. Later i talked to the one of them, a Chinese girl studiying in Harvard USA, she started telling me things about her big rich buisiness family and personal crypto projects she had in liberal finance field in Switzerland, she proposed me a job as a Solidity develloper. And I UNDERSTOOD why the previous speech was &quot;TOO POLITICAL&quot; for her.<p>For me, FSF and GNU are not enought political; I was always disappointed of the FSF and GNU political positioning, while their fight is about freeing the world of proprietary licences (property right) they don&#x27;t consider to support anticapitalists movements who are fighting for that to. Stallman was the only to publicly support the French left social-reformist party &quot;La France Insoumise&quot; with the candidat Jean Luc Mélenchon, and for me it means a lot.<p>Now, let&#x27;s say it; OF course I understand why this is strategic for them, but i don&#x27;t stand for it because it is irresponsible and dangerous.
squarefootover 1 year ago
This is sad, I hope he will win this battle too. Get well soon, Mr. Stallman!
adamcover 1 year ago
I guess everyone hitting it at once has brought the server to its knees...
staringbackover 1 year ago
Is he going to accept treatment from non-free medical machines?
vfinnover 1 year ago
I hope you get better. You made the world a better place.
znpyover 1 year ago
Wish him well, i hope he recovers fully and soon.<p>So sad to hear this :(
oliverpkover 1 year ago
I hope he recovers, he&#x27;s a programming legend.
anticensorover 1 year ago
We really need a GNU Free Medical Products Licence.
ngc248over 1 year ago
Wish him a fruitful recovery. Man&#x27;s a legend
placesaltover 1 year ago
Wishing him a speedy recovery.
bigbillheckover 1 year ago
There&#x27;s an awful lot of non-free code in medical devices.
PHGamerover 1 year ago
he looks different without is locks
golemotronover 1 year ago
Crummy streaming. Why isn&#x27;t this on YouTube?
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H8crilAover 1 year ago
What&#x27;s cool about RMS is that he perfectly foresaw many decades ago the world that we live in today: your car or smart fridge refusing actions because its software says so. And you cannot change the bloody software! I cringe every time I see encrypted firmware running in trusted execution environment, DRM, DLCs for fucking physical products, websites or apps that scam you into signing up or giving up some other freedoms, or some other corpo garbage made in this era. Tesla literally sells car speed upgrade as an over the air update. My phone makes it hard or impossible to install the software that I want, unless some corpo bureaucrat from Google or Apple decided they like this software.
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minebreakerover 1 year ago
He is the one who we need <i>now</i>, in the era of saas&#x2F;cloud run by big tech. So sad.
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eurleifover 1 year ago
Asking out of curiosity, not to be cruel: I wonder if he&#x27;s willing to use medical equipment that uses non-Free software? To my knowledge, his stated position against using non-Free software is pretty much absolute; but given that medical equipment&#x27;s software is almost universally non-Free, taking that stance here would seriously endanger his ability to receive necessary medical care.
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jhatemyjobover 1 year ago
Horrible fate. Freedom is in freefall.
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99112000over 1 year ago
I wish him all the best, fighting cancer is a tough battle. After he beats his own cancer, perhaps he has energy to defeat the cancer that is FSF.
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