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Ozempic linked to stomach paralysis, other gastrointestinal issues: UBC study

61 pointsby alibosworthover 1 year ago

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slleweover 1 year ago
Anecdotal experience - Good friend of mine who struggles with weight was taking Ozempic for about two months.<p>He described nausea quite often when I saw him but the results were pretty astounding.<p>He then hit a wall where gastroparesis would happen quite often and I happened to be at his house when one of these bouts got very severe. He went from feeling bad, to hunched over in pain and started projectile vomiting in the span of 30 minutes. He said it was clearly the meal he had eaten several days ago...it was awful.<p>I believe this happened to him several more times - and AFAIK he stopped taking it, and promptly regained some weight back.
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Mobius01over 1 year ago
Anecdotal sample of one here: since starting the treatment a year ago, I have hardly set foot in a fast food restaurant, and my visits to other food establishments have been reduced by 75% at minimum. Grocery shopping has been more mindful and smaller in size. The impact on my desire or even ability to consume food beyond the base metabolic necessity is real.
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anigbrowlover 1 year ago
It&#x27;s going to be very interesting to see how the people who insisted on getting off-label prescriptions fare in court.
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renewiltordover 1 year ago
Okay, it&#x27;s 10x the rate. From 45 per 100k person-years to 450 per 100k person-years for the pancreatitis. That seems like it&#x27;s worth taking the play on if you&#x27;re fat and can&#x27;t unfat yourself.
comfortabledougover 1 year ago
I was on it for 2 months, and felt no serious adverse gastrointestinal effects. A tiny bit of nausea, but no vomiting or stomach pains. I was conscious of things acting differently down there so I made sure to eat smaller meals, and avoided fatty foods. A lot of people keep eating just like before and that&#x27;s where most problems stem from.<p>Initially my appetite almost completely went away, but then it came back to what felt like normal. There were days where I felt like I was eating too much or binging, but the weight kept coming off at about 2lbs per week. Also, being free from the food noise was incredibly liberating because I&#x27;m otherwise always thinking about food.<p>I ended up stopping because I would get incredibly sleepy at about 10pm to the point where staying up was almost impossible. I tried eating more thinking it was a blood sugar issue, but that didn&#x27;t help. It just didn&#x27;t work with my schedule.<p>I plan to get back on it, or an alternative like Mounjaro.
Animatsover 1 year ago
<i>&quot;Another issue he brought up with the study is that the researchers found that people on Ozempic were five times more likely to drink alcohol compared to the other medications.&quot;</i><p>Hm. May have located the problem.<p>This is considered to be the first generation of weight loss drugs that work. There will probably be better ones.
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tptacekover 1 year ago
Pancreatitis is already a listed side effect of GLP-1 agonists, right?
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dmixover 1 year ago
Is this sort of thing higher the longer you use it? If it’s only for 3-6 months to get the ball rolling and getting you walking and eventually into a gym it’s probably worth the risk. It really shouldn’t be a long term thing should it?<p>I was gaining a lot of weight and simply walking for 30min was exercise (which sounds embarrassing in retrospect as I type it). So I did that daily around the neighborhood. That got easier, all I cared about was doing it daily not the outcomes, then I started going on a bike rides with slow increasing intensity, then got a gym membership, and now 2yrs later I’m in excellent shape, addicted to the feeling after working out, and do ~45min of fitness 5 days a week.<p>I know binge eating seems to be the issue with this one in particular but for me I naturally started to eat better on days I do fitness, I <i>feel</i> like eating things that give me energy. My body demands it. When I had relapses into not doing daily fitness I almost always eat poorly in a negative cycle just sitting on the couch drinking alcohol because I don’t have energy to go out.<p>Not to get preachy (everyone has a solution) but I think too many people do dramatic gym efforts or massively change diet with Keto (or w&#x2F;e) then burn out quickly instead of starting small and focusing on routine&#x2F;habit as the goal #1… not obsessing about how much calorie burn you can pack into x minutes before going back to nothing in 2 months. Fitness is a basic lifestyle routine like showering and brushing your teeth, it’s not a huge hard commitment when it’s paced properly and a natural daily thing.
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sschuellerover 1 year ago
From my understanding all that Ozempic does it kill your appetite. It doesn&#x27;t burn fat or anthing else (except the side effects of course) or does it?<p>Seems to me that there must be a safer way to reduce someones appetite.
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hooverdover 1 year ago
I&#x27;ve also heard that Ozempic was good for the GDP, so mixed bag.
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nonameiguessover 1 year ago
I don&#x27;t know to what extent this kind of perspective matters compared to the obviously more common usage of obese people with serious diet control problems, but I come at this more from a physique sport angle. I have no real interest in getting big and don&#x27;t want to use steroids, so I don&#x27;t actually compete, but I do lift nearly every day, run nearly every day, and have become extremely lean, probably currently somewhere in the area of 6-7%. My experience of using this myself and of seeing other people use it is from this perspective, people who were never all that fat to begin with and are just looking for it to be easier to be extremely not fat.<p>And in those communities and in my personal experience, this kind of thing virtually never happens. I&#x27;ve been in a calorie deficit since roughly mid May at this point, and have felt no nausea, haven&#x27;t vomited, have felt nothing, really. I can barely tell I&#x27;m taking a drug. The only perceivable effect is I&#x27;m not hungry, and this seems to be the common takeaway from bodybuilders and models and what not doing this. My wife has been taking it for over a year and a half now and has had no side effects.<p>But I&#x27;m not out there trying to maintain my pizza and ice cream diet while outsourcing portion control to a drug. I&#x27;m also not trying to lose 80 pounds in a year. I don&#x27;t eat out, weigh and measure and plan all of my food, and haven&#x27;t had a dessert or a drop of alcohol since last Christmas. Likely won&#x27;t have another until this Christmas.<p>It&#x27;s just something to keep in mind depending on your specific goals. I feel like, at least until I stopped reading the news, I was getting bombarded almost daily with scare articles like this claiming you&#x27;ll be miserable, sick, your face will sag and age prematurely, all kinds of ridiculous shit. I can&#x27;t speak to what it&#x27;s like to have lifelong problems with food habits and to be over a hundred pounds past the recommended BMI range, or what any means of changing that will do to you. But if you are a reasonably fit person who wants to be absolutely shredded, or someone who has been and can be shredded and has lost weight plenty of times before, but just want it to not be a miserable four months, these drugs are absolute gold. Not just bodybuilders, but dancers, gymnasts, climbers, weight class fighter, anyone with a strong incentive to be very lean most of the time. Maybe we don&#x27;t matter as much to public health compared to fighting the obesity epidemic, and maybe we&#x27;re not very common on a place like Hacker News where most readers are probably sedentary and have never been athletes, but we&#x27;re still a demographic and the GLP-1 revolution has been a godsend for us. They&#x27;re far safer than anything that existed previously. They just take what you were already doing and put it in easy mode.
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makkover 1 year ago
Well, that was quick.
brennaw1over 1 year ago
Can we just let people be fat and happy
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