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What is a "document"? (1997) [pdf]

88 pointsby omarfarooqover 1 year ago

6 comments

Rygianover 1 year ago
Things I consider &quot;a document&quot; and that I would like to manipulate as files in my filesystem:<p>* A Facebook post.<p>* An email I receive.<p>* A form I fill in online.<p>* A chat session on WhatsApp.<p>* An SMS.<p>* An X-ray of my wrist.<p>* A video &quot;voicemail&quot; left by the caller when I don&#x27;t pick up a Meet call.<p>* My electricity consumption as measured by the smart meter in my house.<p>* (the list goes on)<p>The fact that none of them appear in my filesystem* by default is, to me, the biggest failure of consumer IT since the Internet exists.<p>*Or at least in some standardized, interchangeable, mostly uniform container format.
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tingletechover 1 year ago
Buckland and Lynch are still doing the Friday seminar <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ischool.berkeley.edu&#x2F;events&#x2F;ias" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ischool.berkeley.edu&#x2F;events&#x2F;ias</a>
lioetersover 1 year ago
Reminds me of the discussion around what is &quot;content&quot;. Recent criticism of the word suggests that &quot;content&quot; is how art and creative expression gets processed into commodity, entertainment and consumption. With machine learning, &quot;content mills&quot; are hoping to generate endless amount of content without a (human) creator.<p>I also wonder what a &quot;document&quot; means in the context of a web browser. It includes HTML, CSS, JavaScript, as well as any media files like audio, video. The Pandora&#x27;s box was to include dynamic scripting, so a document is run as an application, a kind of &quot;hyper document&quot; for multimedia communication and interaction.
jareklupinskiover 1 year ago
&gt; discussed whether, for example, sculpture, museum objects, and live animals, could be considered ‘documents.’<p>big &quot;what are birds&quot; energy <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Kh0Y2hVe_bw">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=Kh0Y2hVe_bw</a>
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vessenesover 1 year ago
@dang - this is actually pretty interesting, particularly because of when it was written (1997). I&#x27;d suggest you add the date in the tile, it&#x27;s of most interest (to me at least) as a view of where we were all at in the &#x27;90s thinking about digital records.
pizzafeelsrightover 1 year ago
Linking to a pdf is a good example of what is possibly not a document.
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