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Warren Buffett Has Underperformed the Stock Market for the Last 20 Years

59 pointsby bcg361over 1 year ago

10 comments

TheAlchemistover 1 year ago
As a huge fan of Buffett, I must point to the fact that can materially change this comparison in the years to come:<p>- stock market returns were abnormally high for the past 15 years<p>- Berkshire is sitting on a huge pile of cash, ready to invest<p>This is a very similar scenario to what people were saying in 1999 - Buffett is done etc. I highly recommend reading his biography - &quot;The Snowball&quot; and especially the preface when they describe the speech he gave in 1999, about stock market levels and valuations. Mind blowing, knowing what happened later.
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Detrytusover 1 year ago
So it seems that Buffet, ironically, does not follow his own advice of simply buying an ETF and holding it.<p>Also, I know some &quot;celebrity traders&quot; in Poland who advertise their IKE (think of it like a Polish version of Roth IRA account), where out of 170,000 PLN cash savings over 10-12 years they can get 1,800,000 PLN (for the average return of 37% per year) - how&#x27;s that for beating the market?
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francisofasciiover 1 year ago
Anyone with a well balanced portfolio of asset classes lost to the &quot;market&quot;, which I suppose we mean the S&amp;P 500. Bonds prices were killed the last year or two. I would argue the S&amp;P, being about 25% tech stocks, is not as diversified as people think. Tech did great the last 20 years, and maybe they will continue. But it is risky to JUST invest in the S&amp;P.
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danw1979over 1 year ago
From the data in the article, the underperformance has really set in during the last 6 years. It’s a progressive decline.<p>Pandemic market distortion maybe ? Warren and Charlie just getting long in the tooth and slowing down ? Are the up-and-coming managers at BH (are there any ?) calling more of the shots and getting it wrong ?
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toomanyrichiesover 1 year ago
Berkshire&#x27;s huge pile of cash is more than likely the <i>reason</i> for the latter-day under-performance.<p>In its early years, its cash pile was obviously much more modest, and it was easier to find opportunities which would fit Buffett&#x27;s investment criteria while also moving the needle from an ROI standpoint.<p>But now that cash pile has grown substantially. It&#x27;s orders of magnitude harder to find investments which move a $100 billion needle, and Buffett is unwilling to lower his standards such that he can find businesses to spend his cash on.<p>Hence Berkshire has little other choice but to park its un-deployed assets in relatively low-performing but liquid accounts, ready to invest if needed but otherwise not doing much for the bottom line in the meantime.<p>TL;DR- Berkshire may be a &quot;victim&quot; of its own success.
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cushpushover 1 year ago
Shows you the power of compounding successful interest early.
jjthebluntover 1 year ago
Does that table in the article not compare Buffet&#x27;s share values vs S&amp;P shares value plus their dividends?
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RantyDaveover 1 year ago
I get completely different numbers (although the tldr is no less alarming). Does someone want to check my work? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;RantyDave&#x2F;41ac164cfcf527a91d3b97c8dd19ed3c" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gist.github.com&#x2F;RantyDave&#x2F;41ac164cfcf527a91d3b97c8dd...</a>
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jjeaffover 1 year ago
funny thing is, it was probably about 10 years ago or more that he made a bet that no active manager could beat the market.
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Cpollover 1 year ago
But if Berkshire didn&#x27;t exist, would the stock market have performed the same way?