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A BART seat-slashing gang that was part of an upholstery racket (2019)

98 pointsby luuover 1 year ago

15 comments

neilvover 1 year ago
It wasn't an entirely novel idea. Around the same time, I saw a comic, something like a rock/brick tossed through a house's front window, with a note tied around it, like a stereotypical intimidation/threat. Except the note was an ad for a local window glass replacement service.
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Traubenfuchsover 1 year ago
My parents lived in an apartment, several apartments in our house got broken into. My dad went to a reinforced door company to get a quote. It was almost 10.000€, a ridiculous amount! We didn‘t get it.<p>A month later we had a break in while I was home alone. He took off when he saw me. We got the door. Now we got a bulletproof 10.000€ door.<p>To this day I am convinced the door company sent the burglar.
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hereforcommentsover 1 year ago
I have a similar story. In my hometown the owner of the Mercedes salon paid money for each emblem that was broken of a car&#x27;s hood. It was around 2000-2005. I know this from the owner&#x27;s son.
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oldbbsnicknameover 1 year ago
The ol&#x27; thumbtacks on the street near the tire-shop routine... but actually doing it.<p>BART should&#x27;ve just stopped replacing them because it was already depressing and created a feeling of unease even when it was just a few years old. BART is a symptom of the dysfunctional, lower-classing of American mass-transit in contrast to masses of unyielding cultural exaltation of the single occupant vehicle in gridlock. Hurray that they dug a tunnel under the Bay, but scant few actually want to board a tram that seems perpetually foreshadowing of an escape room or serial killer scene.
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fragmedeover 1 year ago
This is why we can&#x27;t have nice things :&#x2F;
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bradgesslerover 1 year ago
I still can&#x27;t believe how long BART had fabric seats and carpeted trains. I think they finally have removed all of those cars from service.
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ndygover 1 year ago
I&#x27;m not sure if it&#x27;s still the case since we moved away a few years ago, but the 24th St BART escalator used to be in a constant repair loop. It would get fixed for a short period, operate for about a month, and then go back to being out of service. Made me question if a similar scheme was in operation.
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spoonjimover 1 year ago
Such rampant pillaging of taxpayer dollars should have been more severely punished. If I was on a jury I would have sent them to jail for 20 years and slept well that night.
HideousKojimaover 1 year ago
Makes me wonder if window repair companies like to get in on rioting to boost their revenue:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=hsDQDDrL9Yo">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=hsDQDDrL9Yo</a>
fbdab103over 1 year ago
So the mistake was in outsourcing the crime. Had they kept a tighter circle of perpetrators, probably could have kept the scam going for significantly longer.
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carbocationover 1 year ago
&gt; <i>BART filed a $2.16 million civil suit against Hurwitz, which was pending in Alameda County Superior Court as of 1982. It&#x27;s unclear what became of the case, and searches for news of the suit came up empty.</i>
pengaruover 1 year ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Broken_windows_fallacy" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Broken_windows_fallacy</a>
UberFlyover 1 year ago
&quot;BART filed a $2.16 million civil suit against Hurwitz, which was pending in Alameda County Superior Court as of 1982. It&#x27;s unclear what became of the case, and searches for news of the suit came up empty.&quot;<p>And herein began the second scam...
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pkulakover 1 year ago
Otherwise known as a “perverse incentive”, or “the cobra effect”, for when a bounty was created to get rid of the snakes, causing people to breed them instead of hunt them.
hnbadover 1 year ago
I wonder, grafitti aside[0], how much of the social panic around &quot;vandalism&quot; can be tied to similar dynamics. Not necessarily outright rackets like this one but perverse incentives at least.<p>Also it&#x27;s easy to see how slashing a seat or breaking a window is vandalism but somehow we&#x27;ve decided anti-homeless architecture and literring pedestrian spaces with subsidized rental e-scooters isn&#x27;t even if it also drastically reduces quality of life by modifying shared public spaces.<p>[0]: I dislike how grafitti and defacement is lumped in with functional damage as &quot;vandalism&quot; except for rare cases like road signs. I like to think that there is a tangible difference between changing the appearance of something and damaging it in such a way that it is no longer fully fit for purpose. Even if one believes that &quot;maintaining property value&quot; is a primary purpose of a building&#x27;s wall or &quot;providing ad space&quot; is a primary purpose of a train exterior, I&#x27;d argue that there is a clear moral difference.