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Apple AirTags stalking led to ruin and murders, lawsuit says

54 pointsby pfychover 1 year ago

7 comments

master_crabover 1 year ago
I get that this lawsuit is about discerning whether Apple built enough safeguards into the AirTag system…<p>But taking a step back and acknowledging the amount of heat Apple has gotten for releasing a legitimately useful product while we drown in an ocean of guns always makes me chuckle uncomfortably.
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LeoPantheraover 1 year ago
AirTags are the only tracking device that have <i>any</i> kind of anti-stalking protection. Literally the only one that does anything at all.<p>And yet it gets all the flak.<p>People are stupid.
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probably_wrongover 1 year ago
In my opinion, the issue is not so much that Apple built a tracking device (of which there are plenty of competitors) but rather that Apple built the first tracking device that worked at scale.<p>Some years ago a friend of mine bought a set of Tile trackers without knowing what they were. He then found out they were useless as anti-theft devices because no one in his area had the app. If his Tile was gone (along with whatever they&#x27;re attached to), the chances of his tile being near a second Tile user were negligible. But Apple had the market power to overcome that issue.<p>I don&#x27;t know how good other trackers are but I imagine a GPS tracker needs a battery and a SIM card, which would make them more expensive and with a limited battery life. If Apple truly managed to build a tracking device that&#x27;s forever on and whose alarm can be easily disabled, I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s a bad idea to wonder whether they&#x27;ve jumped too far into &quot;bad for society&quot; territory. Usually we would discuss these issues in the open, but nowadays lawsuits seem to be the only way to do it.
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gherkinnnover 1 year ago
&gt; One plaintiff from Indiana, LaPrecia Sanders, lost her son after his girlfriend allegedly used an AirTag to track his movements and then &quot;followed him to a bar and ran him over with her car, killing him at the scene.&quot;<p>This was one of the few explicitly mentioned cases. And something tells me AirTags were not the problem here.
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langsoul-comover 1 year ago
There&#x27;s sorta a meta question here. If a product gets released, and some use it for nefairous uses, how much is the company at fault?<p>Even though airtags are tracking devices, they are legitimately useful.<p>Kinda reminds me of the NSO situation, where they supposedly only gave access for a specific set of legal reasons. Then the client decided to use it in a nefarious manner anyway.
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tikuover 1 year ago
As always, Apple wasn&#x27;t first but sure made it more easy. Any dumbass with bad intent can now buy airtags instead of getting a sim card and a gps device.
nektroover 1 year ago
if only we could have seen this coming.... &#x2F;s