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Ask HN: Why aren't trams/trains autonomous?

2 pointsby sturzaover 1 year ago
Seems like an easier problem to solve than cars

3 comments

superchromaover 1 year ago
Some are. Retrofitting infrastructure necessary to facilitate reliable, safe autonomy in all conditions is expensive and building systems to meet expectations in all conditions is also.<p>Many railways grapple with issues of reliability and accuracy despite being partially or fully automatic.<p>With cars, you have the easy out that the responsibility always rests on the driver. If you mess up, it&#x27;s their fault; their hands should always have been on the wheel. If you break it, one person is late for work. If you break a rail network, everyone is late for work. Different risk profiles.<p>Being able to ship code of dubious quality and iterate on it is preferred for companies rather than engaging in a massive contract to deliver a perfectly working rail inventory and routing management system.
simonblackover 1 year ago
There&#x27;s no practical difference between &#x27;tram&quot;, &quot;train&quot; and &quot;light rail&quot;.<p>There are lots of autonomous trains all over the world. Many airports use them. Many city subways use them.<p>You probably haven&#x27;t been looking hard enough. They are there. The first time you ride in one can be a little unnerving when you can look out through the front window and there&#x27;s no driver blocking your view.
genezetaover 1 year ago
Here the current underground trains are <i>almost</i> fully autonomous. They still carry a person in the cabin &quot;just in case&quot; and mostly because of union pressure. There&#x27;s also a plan where new trains to be delivered in 2025 will be fully autonomous and have no driver at all.<p>AFAIK the situation is similar in some other European cities.