Well, I have the first model of laptops using nVidia Arm chip, it's called Toshiba AC100, and rocked a nVidia Tegra 2 in 2010.<p>It launched with Android, but I helped put GNU/Linux on it (got my first mainline author-ship with it), and daily drove it for a year at university (back then not everyone had laptops)<p>It was a hell of a device, and to this day I'm still missing anything close to it. 10 inch, 900g, 10 hour battery life (which was unthinkable on PCs back then), removable battery so when traveling I just had two batteries, extremely sturdy (I used to launch it in the air, and failed some times without worrying) [1]. That being said, even back then it was seriously limited, and I would max out the RAM just by doing ssh + quasselclient. By killing quasselclient I could have enough RAM to launch firefox to a simple web page, but that's it.<p>[1] It wasn't made to be sturdy, it's just that there was basically no weight, the pcb was very small, and it had pretty huge bezels
> Microsoft's plans take aim at Apple, which has nearly doubled its market share in the three years since releasing its own Arm-based chips in-house for its Mac computers.<p>I know that Mac was always in single digit marketshare (but still a healthy amount as far as money for apple goes) but still doubling seems to be quite an achievement?<p>I am curious if this is actually from an increase in Mac sales or a decrease in PC sales and Mac has just been stable? Or a mix of both. I will need to look this up. (Side note: I HATE when we see something as unhelpful as "doubled" and they could have included some numbers at least).<p>On the topic of the article, I was kinda surprised to see that Microsoft has some initiates for Windows on Arm. I know it was technically a thing but it seemed like a thing that we just stopped hearing about?<p>Do they have an answer to rosetta so the transition can be mostly seamless (for everyone except developers if the M series is any indication...).<p>Also I have to wonder how much pre-built Windows computers are still sold vs moving to non traditional platforms like an iPad?<p>I am curious because gaming will likely never move to arm. Unless I have missed it I have never seen ARM in a system that you can build yourself. Even Apple's ARM Mac Pro is questionably "Customizable" after the fact. I just don't see most PC gamers giving up the upgradability.
Given how much I love my MacMini M2 Pro - its perfectly silent operation and its incredibly small form factor combined with great graphics performances, I can imagine that having similar machines available for Windows and Linux would be very attractive.
> Nvidia has quietly begun designing central processing units (CPUs) that would run Microsoft’s (MSFT.O) Windows operating system...<p>> Advanced Micro Devices (AMD.O) also plans to make chips for PCs with Arm technology...<p>> Qualcomm plans to reveal more details about a flagship chip..<p>(That would be the Nuvia core, I assume)<p>Really, just read the whole thing. Its a brief but juicy report.<p>Anyway, I wonder if Nvidia is going to make an SoC or a discrete CPU. Seems like an either-or proposition, as a big CPU with a small IGP (like AMD/Intel) doesn't make much sense for Nvidia.
Prior to switching to Apple Silicon, Apple prepared the path with their effort to push for universal binaries by default<p>Software made yesterday were already prepared to run on their new silicon<p>Rosetta was only a transition helper, not meant to be a permanent solution<p>Microsoft didn't do any of that, and still doesn't, their leadership is clueless and dangerous<p>If Microsoft doesn't put in the effort, it'll never work<p>Let's hope there's no secret agreement to exclude Linux (?AMD AI?)<p>I wish Valve would encourage developpers to submit ARM binaries to prepare for the future...<p>Why only Apple is able to pull it off? Why this lack of care from everybody else?<p>Meanwhile.. <a href="https://www.huaweicentral.com/harmonyos-to-launch-for-pc-windows-might-be-in-trouble/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.huaweicentral.com/harmonyos-to-launch-for-pc-win...</a>
I hope these ARM chips are Apple-level ARM designs. Apple has an ARM license that allows them to completely design their own cores. Only Apple's ARM designs have cutting edge performance. Everyone else (Qualcomm, Samsung, etc) uses stock, or nearly stock, ARM designs off-the-shelf that, performance-wise, aren't at all competitive with AMD/Intel. I'd love a Surface Pro with an M1/M2 chip, but the Qualcomm ARM chips are dogs.
I hope so. Then I can put some weird OS on it that nobody uses because I really miss the security-through-obscurity I got back in the day running Linux on PowerPC before either were popular. Nobody was going to bother writing shellcode for that shit back then :P
I do wonder if we will see these chips available for purchase to install in standard form factor ATX style systems? This is something I haven’t seen Arm crack into yet.
I'm really curious if unified cpu/gpu chips are the future for laptop/desktop hardware. Mac is now unified across its product line, consoles are unified, phones are unified. My limited understanding though is that unified memory means giving up either high speed (for the cpu), or high bandwidth (for the gpu). Is that correct?
Orin Nano could already be a fine desktop if you can accept Linux4Tegra as your one and only option.<p>$499 and way more GPU than one would need. Releases March 2022 with a reasonably competent 6x Cortex-A78's.
I don't understand the aarch64 hotness. Is it because Apple did it? At the end of the day it's just a different instruction set- what makes that such an advantage?
Is this a continuation of the existing Grace Hopper SoC [0]?<p>[0] - <a href="https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/data-center/grace-hopper-superchip/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/data-center/grace-hopper-superc...</a>
Are we rooting for an ecosystem where there are next to no standards? Not even a standard boot protocol. The world is going to be full of devices with one off SOCs with terrible after release support.
Why is it taking so long to launch competitive ARM Windows laptops ?<p>Apple is already in it's third iteration of the M series and there's still no proper competition to the Macbooks.
nv has been making tegras for ages now, and i'm pretty sure some of them ran windows at some point. so this doesn't seem that big news, especially if they don't have an oem in pocket yet.