I mean Snapdragon's chip won't ship till mid next year. Apple's chip is over a year old. Not sure this is that much of an accomplishment. We'll see how it competes against M3.<p>Hopefully Snapdragon will have user replaceable ram and hard drives.
Even with the mandated multitude of phone PMICs?<p><a href="https://www.semiaccurate.com/2023/09/26/whats-going-on-with-qualcomms-oryon-soc/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.semiaccurate.com/2023/09/26/whats-going-on-with-...</a>
I think the Ars article is a better link: <a href="https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/qualcomm-snapdragon-x-elite-looks-like-the-windows-worlds-answer-to-apple-silicon/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/qualcomm-snapdragon-...</a>
For single threaded performance. I would certainly be interested to see a more thorough benchmark across categories like multi-threaded perf, GPU perf, etc.
One thing the presentation highlighted in contrast to Apple is how dependent Qualcomm is on Microsoft, Google, and the smartphone/chromebook/PC manufacturers. Looking forward to seeing this thing in the wild.
Although the performance numbers are impressive, especially for PC, yesterday's presentation was a bit of a disappointment. You have a chip that you claim smokes the competition in performance, yet you don't show any demo of it, and instead focus 90% of the presentation on AI capabilities.<p>For example, just partner with one of the popular game companies, let's say Riot Games, and natively compile one of their games and show side by side against a competitors CPU how much more FPS Oryon gets, or how much more the battery life goes on.<p>It doesn't even have to be a game, they could have shown a video export or compilation of a big code base...
What are they using to benchmark single-threaded performance? I don't think it's good to state that without clarifying what is the task being run. You could have a benchmark that increments a number in register. Since add/increment runs in a single clock, a high frequency CPU (Pentium 4 at 3.8Ghz?) would win over a wide core with great memory bandwidth (M2 at 3.7Ghz). Technically, that's a greater single thread performance, but not really applicable to the real world.<p>If it's over a variety of tasks and/or in a task that's similar to real world computation, kudos to them!
I would love something like an M2 steam deck, and if what the presentation it's true I could see it happening. I wonder if this chip has hardware acceleration to translate x86/amd64 to ARM instructions, and what the performance cost is if that's the case.
Very excited about the AI stats: 7B model running 30 tokens/ second, 13B+ parameters running on device, first token in 2.2sec. It seems we'll have more powerful AI models running on devices soon.
the cpu race on mobile will be interesting to see.<p>let's see how this matches up to m2 / m3 vs the amd 7840u series chips too in terms of performance vs power draw.<p>people soon will be spoilt for choice. no more noisy laptops.