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Bitcoin and carbon dioxide emissions: Evidence from daily production decisions

42 pointsby pen2lover 1 year ago

7 comments

droffelover 1 year ago
In the short term, flexible power production like coal generation gets used to satisfy grid demand during situations with abnormally high power requirements. It has the benefit of being able to be turned on and off practically instantly. There is no economic incentive to build out sustainable generative capacity if it won&#x27;t be running all the time, and balancing the <i>load</i> on renewable power is awkward (see power price rate inversions for examples of utilities paying people to use excess energy).<p>I remain unconvinced that cryptocurrency is long term detrimental to clean power generation infrastructure. Quite the contrary, the existence of cryptocurrency to mine acts as a &#x27;productive&#x27; sink for power produced in excess of grid baselines. In practice, our entire grid could be renewables in excess of peak demand, and cryptocurrency mining a flexible network load. It could quite possibly get us off of non-clean energy entirely.
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cyphertruckover 1 year ago
There are so many false premises here that it’s not worth listing them.<p>But if the power in the area is coming from coal then every use of that power is equally coal based.<p>Hair dryers use more power than bitcoin mining, ban them first.<p>The attempt to demonize certain uses of power is just the attempt to demonize certain people in order to oppress them.
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dangover 1 year ago
This was commented about here before the Bitcoin paper even came out:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=253999">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=253999</a>
meristohmover 1 year ago
How do the costs of our current dominant model of currency change at scale? Seems to me the cost-per-unit drops as the currency foothold expands, based primarily on existing infrastructure.<p>Conversely, costs to &quot;mine&quot; bitcoin and similar proof-of-work currencies increase over time, unless I&#x27;m mistaken. The infrastructure is already in place, so it seems absolutely bonkers for costs to go up at scale.<p>Is the argument for bitcoin that in the long run (hundreds of years), with bitcoin the global currency and no longer being mined since it hit the cap, costs will on average be less than bills&#x2F;coins&#x2F;credit&#x2F;cheques?
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psychlopsover 1 year ago
No effort was spent calculating &quot;damages&quot; from competing currencies or stores of wealth.
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x86x87over 1 year ago
Love it how the boogeyman is back once bitcoin starts doing better.
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TheDudeManover 1 year ago
Carbon tax fixes this?
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