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Google to invest up to $2B in Anthropic

400 pointsby fofozover 1 year ago

34 comments

rawrawrawrrover 1 year ago
$6 billion dollars raised in 2 months for their series C is blowing my mind. What does Anthropic have that OpenAI or other LLM startups don't? What other companies have raised that much in a single round?
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simonswords82over 1 year ago
I&#x27;d love to see the statistics on the daily number of Google searches since OpenAI (ChatGPT in particular) came to the fore this year.<p>Anecdotally, I now use ChatGPT for at least 25-50% of the queries that I previously would have had no other channel for other than a search engine.<p>If I was in charge of Alphabet I&#x27;d be starting to worry. This move makes them look a bit desperate.
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gzer0over 1 year ago
In my experience, claude.ai outperforms OpenAI&#x27;s ChatGPT in several key areas. Notably, claude.ai excels in long-tail document reading and recall, demonstrating superior comprehension and information retrieval. Additionally, claude.ai offers enhanced contextual understanding, allowing it to provide more relevant and precise responses.<p>However, while Claude.ai certainly showcases its strengths in specific areas, it doesn&#x27;t quite measure up to OpenAI&#x27;s ChatGPT in terms of adaptability and precision. ChatGPT stands out for its capability to understand intricate queries and produce nuanced, tailored responses.<p>Both platforms have distinct strengths; I firmly believe they&#x27;ll evolve to dominate different niches in the AI ecosystem.
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Taranisover 1 year ago
Amazon recently annouced their investment in Anthropic as well. Two, of the largest ad providers on the planet. Invest in the competition so you can have &quot;input&quot; into various aspects of the company, all the while profitting on any sucess.
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riku_ikiover 1 year ago
Anthropic will be interesting company if founders lost voting power in the board, with FTX, Amazon and Google representatives arguing to each other on key decisions protecting their interests.
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LightBug1over 1 year ago
I&#x27;m confused. Ok, Bard isn&#x27;t cutting edge but it&#x27;s pretty damned good for every day stuff ... and I actually detest Google ... but I&#x27;ve been using it because I&#x27;m sick of Edge on my PC and I think the UI is just &#x27;friendlier&#x27; and quicker.<p>N=1
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neomover 1 year ago
Wonder if Anthropic could end up making FTX shareholders whole given SBF invested quite bit into them a while ago.
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foxhopover 1 year ago
I&#x27;m using LLMs at my day job and claude v2 getting close to gpt-4&#x27;s intelligence. It does use a different prompting style and has a huge 100,000 context window so it expects multishot prompting to train the LLM just-in-time.
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Karupanover 1 year ago
Is this google indirectly admitting that it cannot compete in the current AI landscape (e.g bard), or is it just to keep OpenAI in check by funding its closest competitor?
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Jackson__over 1 year ago
Huh, this together with their &quot;Gemini&quot; AI product still not being released does not paint a good picture of progress at the Google DeepMind Team.
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xystover 1 year ago
I wonder what the burn rate is for these AI companies. $2b is a shit ton of money but I can easily see it quickly draining with a large team of devs, data scientists, SREs, and misc costs such as specialty hardware and cloud costs.
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xmglgpeldmgover 1 year ago
Is there any significance in Google proper making the investment rather than another arm of Alphabet?
garblegarbleover 1 year ago
I can&#x27;t understand the mindset of any AI researchers who stay at Google at this point.<p>You&#x27;re there (presumably) because you want to make an impact. You gave them a massive lead with a novel approach... and Google failed to capitalise on that so spectacularly that they&#x27;re now investing billions <i>into their competitor</i> who&#x27;s miles ahead of Google, using Google&#x27;s approach, all to try and head off another competitor who&#x27;s miles ahead of everybody <i>also using Google&#x27;s approach</i><p>I hope that (counter to stories) they pay the researchers very well, because the best result I can see is Google shutting down what they can publish to try and stop this happening again.
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cryptozover 1 year ago
Can’t risk losing the AI war entirely. Much better to be embarrassed to the tune of $2B than to have no profits from future AI success.
qwertoxover 1 year ago
Can&#x27;t wait for the day where it makes sense to export all my ChatGPT history and import it into Google&#x27;s competition product in order for them to customize my experience.<p>At this point Google is offering nothing which comes close to ChatGPT, Bard is a laughing stock compared to it. But I don&#x27;t doubt that Google will catch up and then offer a better experience.<p>The only thing OpenAI has from me is that (valuable) chat history (and the monthly subscription money), so I wouldn&#x27;t have any problems with moving away from them once they are no longer in the unique position they&#x27;re currently in. This is different with Google, which has several orders of magnitude more data about me and which they also do manage for me.<p>I&#x27;m concerned that it&#x27;s only a matter of time until OpenAi gets hacked and some of the user account&#x27;s data gets leaked.
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jklinger410over 1 year ago
Anthropic and Claude are signals to me that Artificial Intelligence will be a captured technology before it actually becomes useful.<p>Google investing in Anthropic shows that their priorities are on the capture over the usefulness. Because that&#x27;s all that Claude really is.
mechanickerover 1 year ago
Could it be more to prevent monopoly by their competitor Amazon becoming the biggest investor?<p>OpenAI gave Microsoft a competitive edge and this could just be a hedge to prevent Amazon from getting even further ahead.
grammersover 1 year ago
Google paid $26 billion in 2021 to become the default search engine on browsers and phones - $2B is peanuts to them.
Varloomover 1 year ago
That means all the work they did on their own AI has failed. So they are buying someone else&#x27;s AI.
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taf2over 1 year ago
I hope anthropic improves their api with this money. Having usage information from OpenAI is very nice. Their ai is really good just need to improve their features to support commercial usage
OscarTheGrinchover 1 year ago
Amzoogle. Coining it here for the benefit of our future Amzooverlords.
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sonimanover 1 year ago
FTX Anthropic worth a lot now or has it been diluted ?
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nuancebydefaultover 1 year ago
Even though Claude sounds French, it seems it is not directly accessible from European countries? I&#x27;d love to give it a spin.
throwaway2990over 1 year ago
They don’t have much confidence. Microsoft invested 10b into OpenAI. That investment seems to be paying off well.
Bishonen88over 1 year ago
Funny, seeing that Amazon seems to be dipping their toes in the same water.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;press.aboutamazon.com&#x2F;2023&#x2F;9&#x2F;amazon-and-anthropic-announce-strategic-collaboration-to-advance-generative-ai" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;press.aboutamazon.com&#x2F;2023&#x2F;9&#x2F;amazon-and-anthropic-an...</a>
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kleene_opover 1 year ago
Those who can&#x27;t do.. pay.
ta988over 1 year ago
They have no choice their internal models are just ridiculously bad compared to OpenAI. The behemoth is so fat it can&#x27;t move anymore, this doesn&#x27;t sound good for the company as a whole and the only thing that keep them afloat is that they are paying to be the default on devices.
outside1234over 1 year ago
So the internal effort to build a competitive AI product are going well?
jsemrauover 1 year ago
I guess the main driver here is gaining control &#x2F; influence ?
danielovichdkover 1 year ago
Does anyone know what clauses OpenAI workers work under in terms of competition trying to pick them up and win them over?<p>I still don&#x27;t see any competition to what openai has done and so I expect some heavy rivalry coming up
nextworddevover 1 year ago
If anything this is a signal that there’s hiccups with Gemini GA or performance
slowhadokenover 1 year ago
I feel like Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park rn
siquickover 1 year ago
Seems like an odd thing to do when all we’ve been hearing about for the last 10 years is how great Google’s AI capabilities are (“but you’re not allowed to actually see or use them”) - even more so when Amazon just invested $1.5B in Anthropic a few weeks ago.
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johnwheelerover 1 year ago
Google and their also-ran AI. Pichai is the lame duck CEO, Brin and Page are the lame duck founders. Hassabis is a lego nerd.<p>Company hasn’t done shit but shutter products and piss people off, and the search engine is working about as good as AltaVista circa 1999.<p>Google employees downvoting me
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