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Big Insurance Met Match When Turned Down a Lawyer's Request for Cancer Treatment

95 pointsby thehoffover 1 year ago

10 comments

lukevover 1 year ago
Pretty much the same thing happened to my dad. He was diagnosed with a rare type of blood cancer. The insurance company denied monoclonal antibodies (as recommended by his oncologist) and would only pay for a complete bone marrow transplant, which would have been highly traumatic at his age. All based on a &quot;standard of care&quot; that at that point was 15 years old... and which was originally written by a committee chaired by my dad&#x27;s oncologist (who presumably knows something about the best way to treat this condition in 2022.)<p>They didn&#x27;t reverse the decision until we got a lawyer who knew the ins and outs of the appeals process. Thankfully, we were able to work through that fast enough for treatment to be effective... there&#x27;s no way we could have paid out of pocket.<p>The ability of an insurance company to unilaterally deny treatment, or determine what type of treatment a patient receives, is obscene and should be categorically illegal. There is no instance in which a medical bureaucrat should should be able to, sight-unseen, overrule a patient&#x27;s own doctor.<p>It&#x27;s so frustrating.
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Kim_Bruningover 1 year ago
I remember the mention of &quot;Death Panels&quot; that were claimed would appear if there was federal insurance. I&#x27;m not sure, but isn&#x27;t that what&#x27;s happening today as is?<p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Death_panel" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Death_panel</a>
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kylecazarover 1 year ago
Kind of demoralizing story (but a good read). Even a renowned litigator with the right friends and plenty of money was only able to secure (potentially partial) payment for the treatment? The system doesn&#x27;t even allow for damages?<p>Almost made me even more frustrated. I was hoping they&#x27;d have to pay up big time, or that some legal precedent would be set in his victory that would help millions in the future avoid this mess.<p>Also title could use a &#x27;treatment&#x27; added to it.
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starkparkerover 1 year ago
Didn&#x27;t expect to see Skeeter Salim on Hacker News. Like, ever, much less in this context.<p>Trial attorneys have a very peculiar reputation in Louisiana. They get incredibly wealthy on the backs of lawsuits against the state&#x27;s oil and gas businesses and their insurers, then turn that money into political lobbying power. This creates a populist dynamic where trial attorneys try to rally voters to oppose tort reform laws in the legislature that are often backed by insurance companies.<p>For instance, in the Louisiana gubernatorial election, where Salim shows up in this article: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nola.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;politics&#x2F;jeff-landry-is-collecting-big-donations-from-trial-lawyers&#x2F;article_ae9755b0-4394-11ee-b5b5-0b41f4b6fc3f.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nola.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;politics&#x2F;jeff-landry-is-collecting...</a>
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refurbover 1 year ago
Here is the fun part that most people don&#x27;t know...universal healthcare systems wouldn&#x27;t have paid for this either.<p>However, the patient never would known about it because it wouldn&#x27;t have been on the list of &quot;approved therapies&quot;, so the doctor never would have suggested it.<p>The article dances around it, but for this particular cancer, proton beam therapy has little evidence supporting it. The current treatment guidelines like NCCN list a number of evidence-based therapies for first line, second line and subsequent line treatments. Proton beam thereapy is a &quot;hail mary&quot; and universal healthcare systems are less expensive than the US because they don&#x27;t pay for &quot;hail marys&quot;.<p>So in places like Canada (whose patients, it&#x27;s important to note, need to travel to the US because there are no proton beam centers) the doctor wouldn&#x27;t have even considered it as a treatment option in this case.
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hooverdover 1 year ago
Inspiring! Orphan&#x27;s knowledge of legal system saves them from orphan crushing machine.
Something1234over 1 year ago
Honestly, a really good story well written. Should be read by more people. It&#x27;s really quite strange how opaque most of these processes are. How they are handled and documented is also quite nuts.
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mnky9800nover 1 year ago
I like the part where everyone forgot that humans are more important than money.
cyanydeezover 1 year ago
&quot;don&#x27;t get cancer unless you&#x27;re a lawyer&quot;
rurbanover 1 year ago
US nonsense only. In democratic countries I never heard of such shenanigans. Some costly treatments are denied, yes, but not in such clear cases.