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Moving our Encrypted DNS servers to run in RAM

393 pointsby kisamotoover 1 year ago

12 comments

kisamotoover 1 year ago
Mullvad encrypted DNS is also available to all - whether paying for VPN services or not.<p>In addition they also support optional content blocking[1] via blocklists, just set the desired TLS&#x2F;HTTPS DNS server.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;mullvad&#x2F;dns-blocklists">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;mullvad&#x2F;dns-blocklists</a>
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LinuxBenderover 1 year ago
Are these physical servers or VM&#x27;s? I ask because some VM types can be frozen&#x2F;shapshot&#x2F;cloned or live replicated <i>including memory contents</i> as is done in some VPS providers for lawful requests. From the bare metal host anything can be accessed in a VM or container. Do they have a diagram of their physical setup?<p>[Edit] - Are there any Mullvad architects here that can help us avoid going down theoretical hypothetical rabbit holes and turtle stacks?
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throwaway914over 1 year ago
As a naive outsider: Does RAM in 2023 encrypt all its contents?<p>Can we reliably &quot;forget&quot; the contents of what&#x27;s in RAM by powering-off and letting some encryption key somewhere fade from a smaller, more volatile piece of memory? I&#x27;m curious what has been done to mitigate cold-boot attacks in RAM. What has changed in hardware? Are the keys to encrypt contents of RAM kept in the TPM or something?
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plygrndover 1 year ago
I contacted Mullvad, who confirmed that they only use bare metal - no virtualization or containerization whatsoever. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;XLDQGGt" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;XLDQGGt</a>
rbutover 1 year ago
I use Cloudflare&#x27;s DoH DNS (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;1.1.1.1" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;1.1.1.1</a>) and tunnel that over Mullvad&#x27;s VPN.<p>That way Mullvad can only see the IPs I visit, Cloudflare only see DNS requests coming from the VPN IP, and my ISP sees nothing.<p>Mullvad&#x27;s DoH DNS seems nice, but it provides potentially less privacy than the above, so I won&#x27;t be using it.
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elifover 1 year ago
I would like to see real statistics but my gut feeling from running read&#x2F;write intensive data applications on SSD and ECC RAM is that both of them fail often enough that this move is somewhat lateral in terms of resiliency.<p>But in terms of clawing raw performance decimals, I applaud the effort. This would be a fun redis project.
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naetover 1 year ago
I was extremely happy with everything mullvad was doing until they announced they were discontinuing port forwarding, which is important to a niche part of my setup. I understand the reasoning, but if it came back ever I would again happily be a customer.
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j-bosover 1 year ago
Does anyone know how Mullvad vpn security compares with Proton vpn?
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UberFlyover 1 year ago
VPN provider OVPN (ovpn.com) has been doing this as well.
lopkeny12koover 1 year ago
I don&#x27;t understand this. Don&#x27;t all Linux processes &quot;run in RAM&quot;? It sounds like what they have <i>actually</i> accomplished here is eliminate all disk I&#x2F;O requirements from their DNS service, i.e. it works against a read-only mounted root filesystem now. That&#x27;s not really the same as &quot;running in RAM&quot;.
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deknosover 1 year ago
they should at least opensource their implementation. they may have errors there. should we just trust everything?
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herpderperatorover 1 year ago
&gt; Today we can announce more steps forward - our Encrypted DNS service has also been converted to run from RAM!<p>Where exactly do services run from if not RAM? The post is very plain with no explanation of what &quot;running from RAM&quot; means. When you execute any binary it gets loaded into RAM as per standard operating system procedures...?
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