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Microsoft pulls OneDrive update that would quiz you before letting you quit

130 pointsby stalfosknightover 1 year ago

19 comments

input_shover 1 year ago
Discussed 3x yesterday:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38197715">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38197715</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38208568">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38208568</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38208473">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38208473</a>
0cf8612b2e1eover 1 year ago
What’s most frustrating to me is how slapdash One Drive is to this day. It is their easiest way to get consumers to start paying for services, yet the product still has embarrassing limitations.<p>Two that I hit on my corporate machine:<p>- struggles with too many files. Last I looked, official Microsoft documentation says to not exceed 100k files. Yet, $WORK wants to dump basically every file I touch inside there. My Teams folder alone is ~20k files.<p>- has a max file path limit which is less than the allowable on NTFS. I use some software with a heavily nested folder structure which One Drive cannot accommodate. A valid Windows file path cannot be backed up by their promoted solution.
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amlozanoover 1 year ago
The last line of the article is just a stunningly good summary:<p>&quot;But it&#x27;s just one more annoying default you need to change to make sure that modern Windows stays out of your way.&quot;<p>Microsoft is constantly pushing the limit of what users will tolerate. I switched non-technical people to Linux OSes after hearing about this, and heard no complaints from them. It&#x27;s almost like Microsoft wants to lose whatever footholds they have left.
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tcbawoover 1 year ago
The only reason I have Windows is for seamless device driver support. Most things work and don’t break with a system update. I don’t want to spend a single minute debugging issues on a forum, resorting to OS reinstall due to something being broken, or twiddling with buggy display or wireless settings. I love the Linux desktop. I wish I could pay someone to deliver this experience. But, I don’t believe that I can. I wish I could strip the display off Windows and run it as a hypervisor with a nice hardware abstraction layer for another OS.
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BLKNSLVRover 1 year ago
OneDrive syncing, plus whatever &quot;enhancements&quot; Microsoft have made to Windows Explorer, makes my current directory navigation and file management slower than it was 10+ years ago.<p>I&#x27;ve started working out of a separate directory structure so that OneDrive stays out of the way, and then move the files manually into OneDrive&#x27;s field-of-view once I&#x27;m finished. This is not good practise for backups, but it&#x27;s good practise for time efficiency and minimal frustration.
diego_sandovalover 1 year ago
I don&#x27;t know how people can be productive using Windows as their main work OS, and how they can retain their mental health.<p>If you need to install it, one thing that helps a little bit is to use offline accounts only. Never give Windows an email address because then it will force OneDrive down your throat, and your user folders will be a weird mix of online and not online folders that is a total mess to understand.
TriangleEdgeover 1 year ago
Is it possible to delete OneDrive from Windows 11? Apple doesn&#x27;t let you delete the News app, or Safari from Macs.<p>I&#x27;m hoping the EU does something similar to iPhones and USB-C and slams the hammer down on forced apps on various platforms.
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_Algernon_over 1 year ago
I don&#x27;t understand why people invite an adversarial entity onto their computer just for the convenience of syncing files.<p>Unison+ssh+Tailscale (or alternatively Syncthing for a slightly more hands-off approach) accomplishes the same with much less overhead and fewer annoyances.
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hsbauauvhabzbover 1 year ago
Onedrive is one of the most cancerous products Microsoft has created in crescent years. I don’t want drive yet it is difficult to uninstall and somehow integrates with office, including outlook web.<p>It’s a clear moneygrab trying to shift user behaviour into cloud storage, I assume because it’s difficult or rare for users to switch storage providers.<p>I wish the Microsoft quality team reigned in all the dark patterns the marketing and retention team were forcing onto people, and I truly wish this whole thing backfires and costs them revenue in the long run.
m3kw9over 1 year ago
What happens when you have a company that doesn’t understand user experience and have close to a monopoly
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insulanusover 1 year ago
PSA for those using windows at home: someone else has already done all the work removing spyware &#x2F; unnecessary junk &#x2F; mandatory login, etc.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;topics&#x2F;windows-11-debloat">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;topics&#x2F;windows-11-debloat</a><p>I think I used this guide <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;christitus.com&#x2F;windows-11-perfect-install&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;christitus.com&#x2F;windows-11-perfect-install&#x2F;</a>
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meksterover 1 year ago
Thank you Jesus.<p>At some moment, my Windows 11 started to launch 2 instances of OneDrive for some reason, I have to close one of it every time the machine reboots (likely weekly due to OS updates) and it was annoying already having have to close it but it was about to make me mad for asking why I have to quit it... Windows, what a joke. Only keeping it to play games, never for work.
Multicompover 1 year ago
This is an unforced error on Microsoft&#x27;s part. The latest in a long line. But I&#x27;m not even surprised these days, just disappointed.<p>I must have just had rose-tinted glasses when I was young, but I totally believed the &#x27;force augmentation&#x27; PR Microsoft offered with their Windows XP tour and their SkyDrive initial offering and their Office 2010 ribbon. I was young enough to not get why people complained so much about those switches. Grow up, toolbars are old and boring, this is cool, life is change, yada yada.<p>Now? After the confusing Windows 8, the killing of WP7, the spyware of W10, the forced updates of W10, the loss of fundamental human interface guideline compliance and look &amp; feel by new-age UX designers who have forgotten the lessons of the past searching to be the next not-Apple of W11, (I could go on) I&#x27;ve grown so sick of Microsoft&#x27;s current direction that I&#x27;ve apparently clipped over to the other side of the screen.<p>Now, I don&#x27;t care. I miss what I see and saw as good. I let my inertia keeping me using Onenote and familiar tools. But I&#x27;m not in love with MS like I used to be, I had to let go of MS fanboyism to hang on to &quot;fight for the users&quot; fanboyism.<p>Luckily the Year of the Linux Desktop will arrive shortly, any second now, and we will be fine (EDIT: &#x2F;s). In the meantime, I&#x27;ve had to treat my computers as tools, not hobby projects...it&#x27;s too depressing otherwise.
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38over 1 year ago
maybe I am on an old version, but I dont get that at all. here is my info:<p><pre><code> OneDrive version: Build 23.214.1015.0001 (64-bit) </code></pre> if I try to close, I get:<p><pre><code> Are you sure you want to close OneDrive? If you close OneDrive, files in your OneDrive folder won&#x27;t sync with your files online. [Close OneDrive][Cancel]</code></pre>
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spider-marioover 1 year ago
Windows RG was supposed to be parody, not a wishlist.
ChrisArchitectover 1 year ago
[dupe]<p>More discussion and updates: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38197715">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38197715</a>
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sitzkriegover 1 year ago
going back to LTSC is much easier than linux :-)
gaileesover 1 year ago
wtf
hkchadover 1 year ago
It wouldn&#x27;t let me login the other day until I completed my signup for &quot;hello&quot; whatever the f-that is. I had to pull the ethernet cable THEN I could login to windows. I promptly disabled any signup that had &quot;hello&quot; in the description. I have exactly 1 windows machine in my house and I am pretty close to making it 0. I was careful to setup that machine before connecting it to the internet so I could create a local account. The hoops people have to jump through just to use something they&#x27;ve paid for is getting pretty outlandish.
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