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Tell HN: Your account can be deleted anytime, for any reason

11 pointsby LabMechanicover 1 year ago
Be mindful of the terms of service you&#x27;re under.<p>Services such as GitHub can delete your account on a whim.<p><pre><code> &quot;GitHub reserves the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason at any time.&quot; https:&#x2F;&#x2F;edit.tosdr.org&#x2F;points&#x2F;652 &quot;Bitwarden has the right to suspend or terminate your access to all or any part of the Website at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately.&quot; https:&#x2F;&#x2F;edit.tosdr.org&#x2F;points&#x2F;6688 &quot;However, Apple reserves the right at all times to determine whether Content is appropriate and in compliance with this Agreement, and may screen, move, refuse, modify and&#x2F;or remove Content at any time, without prior notice and in its sole discretion, if such Content is found to be in violation of this Agreement or is otherwise objectionable.&quot; https:&#x2F;&#x2F;edit.tosdr.org&#x2F;points&#x2F;851</code></pre>

10 comments

k310over 1 year ago
My favorite take on &quot;We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone&quot; is an old Ziggy cartoon, which I can&#x27;t find, with Ziggy looking at a restaurant sign which reads:<p>&quot;We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone&quot;<p>You will now see that in your mind repeatedly!
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PurpleRamenover 1 year ago
That&#x27;s standard-contract-chatter, not really news? There are legit reasons for this, but the actual execution is not as rough as it&#x27;s phrased. In most countries you have local laws which will annul those clauses depending on the circumstances. But of course, in worst case you need to sue them for getting your right.<p>Unless you do something seriously illegal, I would fear accidental deletes more than this. So having backups and fallbacks, is always recommended, even if you trust the company and your behavior.
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JLCarvethover 1 year ago
GitHub -&gt; Gitea<p>Bitwarden -&gt; Vaultwarden<p>Can&#x27;t kick yourself off your own services. Well you can, but you can also unban yourself.
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romanhnover 1 year ago
Why is this surprising? Should a service be forced to keep accounts running in perpetuity? I think this is pretty standard TOS language applicable to pretty much every service in existence (including those that don&#x27;t explicitly state it).
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tonymetover 1 year ago
It’s important to use email + password login for important sites instead of SSO (google, apple, etc). If google ever locks you out, you will also lose access to any sites which depend on Google SSO login.
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muzaniover 1 year ago
Yep, that&#x27;s why I try to avoid SSO except for evaluating services. SSO is useful for purposely locking people out too, e.g. a work account.<p>Some say just use an email and password, but they can lock you out of your email too!<p>Some sign ins are worse than others though. I&#x27;d rate FB as the riskiest, such extreme false positive rates.<p>Followed by Google - if you violate TOS on one account, you could be banned on all the others. Plus they have so many services you can violate. At least Meta doesn&#x27;t ban your FB and Insta at the same time. Both Google and Meta have allegedly nil customer support too.
elmerfudover 1 year ago
Because, it&#x27;s not your account.
metadatover 1 year ago
Yeah, GH a private entity and company.. what did you expect?<p><i>:-&#x2F;</i>
MakeThemMoneyover 1 year ago
Is an account &quot;content&quot; for Apple?
cpachover 1 year ago
Yep.<p>Keep backups. And make sure to have a Plan B.