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Show HN: A game to memorize scale degrees on the guitar fretboard

83 pointsby udit99over 1 year ago
Hey all, posted a similar game a few months ago for memorizing the notes of the fretboard. This time round it&#x27;s intervals&#x2F;interval functions&#x2F;scale degrees .<p>This game is just for the ascending scale degrees and comes with an accompanying course to learn them (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fretboardfly.com&#x2F;learn&#x2F;FBG-201" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fretboardfly.com&#x2F;learn&#x2F;FBG-201</a>). There are similarly other games for descending scale degrees and its accompanying course (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fretboardfly.com&#x2F;play" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fretboardfly.com&#x2F;play</a>) and (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fretboardfly.com&#x2F;learn" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fretboardfly.com&#x2F;learn</a>)

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zozbot234over 1 year ago
I find that it&#x27;s easiest to think of the different intervals on the fretboard in terms of diatonic &quot;distances&quot;. Diatonic distances are like diatonic intervals, the major third and perfect fourth etc. of usual music theory, except that they are zero-based: a string forms a unison with itself, so it&#x27;s at diatonic distance zero. Numbering the guitar strings from the sixth (lowest) to first (highest), the diatonic distances that are crossed in the conventional tuning are 3-3-3-2-3. Just add one to the sum of distances and you get the figure for the corresponding interval: so the 2nd and 1st string form a fourth, 3rd and 1st form a major sixth (as do the 4th and 2nd string), etc. You really don&#x27;t need any kind of brute force memorization.<p>Then you can just use solmization in your mind to figure out how to build any scale pattern on the fretboard regardless of key, keeping in mind that e.g. <i>ut</i>-<i>fa</i> is always a perfect fourth, <i>ut</i>-<i>mi</i> a major third etc. and that <i>mi</i>-<i>fa</i> is always the semitone interval. (There is no <i>ti</i> in historical solmization, you just sing <i>sol</i>-<i>re</i>-<i>mi</i>-<i>fa</i> for the upper tetrachord then pick up again with <i>re</i>-<i>mi</i>-<i>fa</i> etc.) Memorization comes most easily from repetition, the deliberate effort should go towards figuring out the underlying patterns and how to think of them most intuitively and musically.<p>(BTW, solmization is also very helpful in making musical sense of isomorphic keyboards, which much like the guitar fretboard are essentially non-diatonic. It helps you keep track of where the semitone intervals are in a musical line, since they will always be associated with <i>mi</i> and <i>fa</i>.)
miniupuchatyover 1 year ago
I was playing guitar for many years, and was always learning each scale separately. Let&#x27;s say I knew A minor, F major, D pentatonic. It was taking a lot of time to learn and my playing was quite limited.<p>Then I&#x27;ve learned about all fourths guitar tuning.<p>The standard guitar tuning has two highest strings tuned half step down. Which is nice for some things. Makes it easy to play some open chord shapes. But completely breaks the pattern!<p>After the switch it was easy to see that major scale and all it&#x27;s modes(Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian...) and all the keys where the same shape moving around.<p>With that I learned all the modes and keys of the major scale in a few days. When I start playing I just check where in the pattern I am and everything becomes clear.
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brianmorris10over 1 year ago
I don&#x27;t understand what I&#x27;m looking at
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guhcamposover 1 year ago
Can&#x27;t use it in my iPhone 13 mini: the cookie prompt is rendered below (in Z terms) of the fretboard, becoming unclickable.<p>My suggestion is to add some sort of splash or landing page, as landing on a message telling me to tilt my phone was confusing, and that landing page could also prompt for cookie consent before moving to the actual app.
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LewisVerstappenover 1 year ago
This is AWESOME! Fantastic, fantastic job.<p>Any possibility of making it open source?<p>Do you have a donation link? Would love to send a few bucks your way as a thank you. Currently working on memorizing the intervals and this will be super helpful.
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ano-therover 1 year ago
Very nice. Does anybody else also picture the lower strings as being at the top and the headstock to the right (like watching someone else play)?<p>That kind of trips me up here because the image is mirrored.
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xeckrover 1 year ago
Nicely done. It would be good if you linked to a resource that allows the user to study the interval rules on the guitar.
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tristanMatthiasover 1 year ago
I really want to try the lessons, but I don’t have a google account. Can you add basic auth?
anilakarover 1 year ago
I don&#x27;t get it, are you supposed to have absolute pitch?
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kazinatorover 1 year ago
Wants player to identify a flat 10th as a flat 3rd.
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nicetryguyover 1 year ago
Argh stupid B string... cool game!
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i_read_newsover 1 year ago
I actually use Tenuto for this purpose - it includes this specific exercise, but also a plethora of other exercises for guitar along with others (staff, key memorization, piano) and utilities like cord construction. Best money I’ve spent on an app.
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dangover 1 year ago
Once a story has had significant attention in the last year or so, we treat reposts as duplicates (see <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;newsfaq.html">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;newsfaq.html</a>) and this is also true for Show HNs (see <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;showhn.html">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;showhn.html</a>). Since <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36084503">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36084503</a> spent 14 hours on the front page only 6 months ago, I&#x27;d say this repost is too soon.
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