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Ask HN: How did you overcome social anxiety?

35 pointsby needadvicebadlyover 1 year ago
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31 comments

mindwokover 1 year ago
For me, it was a combination of two things.<p>First, I transitioned from an engineering role into sales engineering which meant I was meeting new people, running meetings, etc. every day. That exposure made me pretty comfortable with conversation and meeting new people.<p>Second, and I think more important, is to develop a much greater sense of self-acceptance and comfort. I think a lot of my anxiety was based having some implicit sense that social interaction were performative. I would often approach them with this feeling that I had to do the right thing, say the right thing, leave an impression on them that I designed in my head like being funny, likeable, or smart. Eventually I just learned to accept myself more, let myself say dumb things or make bad jokes. Ultimately you can&#x27;t control what people think of you, so you may as well just do your thing, and if you aren&#x27;t happy with your thing then you need to work on that first.
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phitoover 1 year ago
Just like other said, exposure. Working helped me the most as it forced me to interact with people, and helped me gained confidence because I was good at my job.<p>Mindfulness also allows you to analyze your anxiety and over time you will realise that your thoughts just aren&#x27;t right most of the time, you can and should ignore them. Meditation helps training mindfulness (doesn&#x27;t even need to be done regularly in my experience).<p>If you can&#x27;t do these by yourself, seek help from a therapist. CBT is said to work although I have no experience with it.<p>Social anxiety robbed me from more than 10 years of my life, but now that it&#x27;s (almost) gone, I feel so free. Best of luck to everyone suffering from it, it does get better.
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jplataover 1 year ago
I don&#x27;t think you ever fully do. But, brute force.<p>Putting myself in an uncomfortable situation tends to make it slightly easier the next time, and then a bit better the next time.<p>I think, for me, the anxiety is the unknown of the situation and what to do or how to act and how people will respond. Getting some reps seems to help.
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mancerayderover 1 year ago
Repetition. Go to meetups with the intention of one or two drinks, and chit chatting. A plus is a phone number exchange. Do it weekly.<p>Second, embrace anxiety. Exit the thought loop of worry people can see your anxiety by saying to yourself, &quot;Y,es it might be visible to others, oh well. Nothing to do but push through it. And who cares. It&#x27;s reality&quot; You&#x27;ll be surprised how much anxiety ceases to care about you when you fear it less.
tnecnivover 1 year ago
I never totally did — there’s certain situations I feel awkward in still — but I went from a shy kid to a fairly outgoing adult.<p>It really was exposure, just putting myself in a public place and having small interactions with those around me. It helps going to the same spot frequently and becoming a regular because then the environment isn’t intimidating. Another big key was not expecting anything out of interactions. Most people you talk to you will never see again and that’s total fine! In fact, it makes it easier to put yourself out there with the right perspective. You have nothing to lose!
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cpburns2009over 1 year ago
Depending on the social situation, a hard drink can be an effective way to loosen up. Sip it slowly enough to maintain a slight reduction in inhibition, enough to quell the most blatant bouts of anxiety, but not enough to get buzzed.
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nicoover 1 year ago
Highly, highly recommend the book The Charisma Myth<p>It has some really great exercises, and it goes from easy to difficult<p>It’s a pretty good read, but by far the most important thing is to do the exercises<p>If you want to try to out, google a book summary, find the intro (there are some on GitHub), and follow the 3 suggested exercises in the intro for a couple of days&#x2F;weeks<p>That book literally changed my life
confidantlakeover 1 year ago
You learn to live with it, make peace with it. You can still live a full life, friends, long term relationship etc. But I don&#x27;t believe it is something that can be &quot;cured&quot;.
bsenftnerover 1 year ago
I learned about Cognitive Distortions: the $400 word phrase for &quot;playing yourself&quot;, also called &quot;lying to yourself in your self conversation.&quot;<p>There is this list of questions, 10-20 questions depending upon where you get them, the Cognitive Distortion Checklist. These simple questions you ask yourself, and if you answer &#x27;yes&#x27; to any of them then you are lying to yourself in your self conversation. And the amazing part about deception, once aware of it that method of deception no longer deceives!<p>Now, social anxiety is a form of self deception. Your self conversation is exaggerating negative potential outcomes of a social situation while simultaneously minimizing potential positive outcomes of that same social situation. While in truth the negatives are nowhere as strong as your self conversation indicates and the positives are significantly higher.<p>And this does not just work for social anxiety. This idea, this concept of self auditing one&#x27;s self conversation is extremely powerful and is how one prepares and manages stressful and critically important activities and decisions. It&#x27;s a personal revolution everyone needs to have.
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sveronaover 1 year ago
Coming out as trans and getting to be myself.<p>Deconstructing and reconsolidating my early childhood trauma.
k8svetover 1 year ago
Grindr. That might sound pithy but it absolutely highlighted how much my own anxiety and insecurity was in my own head. Turns out getting a job when I&#x27;m &quot;fuck it, the worst be can do is say no&quot; attitude also is enabling for that working past that anxiety. I think the nature of the app and environment makes it feel like the stakes are lower. For a default-insecure person, it has really helped me grow.
aristofunover 1 year ago
The more you fight something - the stronger you make it.<p>I just accepted that social anxiety is a natural part of a human being and went on living my life.
TomaszZielinskiover 1 year ago
Since this is HN, let me share me an idea I had one day.<p>Psychology&#x2F;CBT says that we have so called &quot;core beliefs&quot;--i.e. convictions we hold, that we&#x27;re not really aware of as they are embedded deep in our minds.<p>For instance, if one of our core beliefs is &quot;the world is a bad place and people are hostile&quot;, we can by default perceive other people as potential threats and feel anxious&#x2F;afraid&#x2F;endangered.<p>Now, ChatGPT has the system prompt &quot;I&#x27;m ChatGTP, ....&quot; that&#x27;s hidden from us.<p>IMVHO that system prompt is like a core belief. Or vice versa--our core beliefs are like ChatGPT&#x27;s system prompts.<p>And CBT can be thought as sandbox escape&#x2F;prompt injection. If we find a way to override the system prompt, we can effectively change it!<p>Of course it&#x27;s just a shallow analogy, but maybe someone will find it useful!
throwaway738293over 1 year ago
Simple answer: Lexapro. Therapy too, but that helped more on a higher level.<p>It&#x27;s the gold standard SSRI for social anxiety for a reason. I&#x27;ve suffered from social anxiety since I was 15 or so, and a tiny pill made it disappear within a month. All of my physical symptoms (shaking, inability to speak, panic attacks, etc) disappeared pretty much immediately. Over the following months, the psychological side of it started to fade too.<p>Conversations became significantly easier, I started speaking more, making jokes, sharing opinions. I haven&#x27;t had a chance to do any public speaking but I honestly think I could do it, even in front of a huge crowd, with basically no issues at this point. A year ago I.. I don&#x27;t know what would have happened if I tried. I&#x27;d probably have fainted!<p>I also lost my severe fear of spiders, which I wasn&#x27;t expecting, and a variety of other anxieties I wasn&#x27;t aware I had. Apparently I struggled a bit with crowds and crossing the road. I hadn&#x27;t been aware of that until suddenly both felt significantly easier.<p>However, it isn&#x27;t perfect, and depending on how long you&#x27;ve had issues with social anxiety, there is likely to be work to do. What was left for me was a decade of coping strategies and beliefs that no longer applied or were necessary, and were actively harming me (keeping me isolated, basically) – and that&#x27;s what the therapy has been helping with. That will take a bit longer, but they&#x27;re being chipped away at slowly.<p>There are also side effects. I get some of them. They&#x27;re not ideal, but they&#x27;re worth the trade-off for me.<p>I read a comment similar to this about a year ago and that&#x27;s why I sought a diagnosis and a prescription. It might not work for you but if you&#x27;re struggling and you haven&#x27;t tried it yet, go speak to your doctor or book an appointment for an initial assessment with a psychiatrist. There&#x27;s really nothing to lose and I wish I&#x27;d started on this when I was 20, not when I was 30. I can&#x27;t imagine where my life, career, relationships, etc, would be if I had...
patatinoover 1 year ago
The older you get, the easier it becomes. You realize that everybody struggles in some way. Everybody carries something. And you start to see it. And you also realize that most reactions and stuff people say are not about you. It&#x27;s about them.
roflyearover 1 year ago
OP, you did not give any details as to your situation, which I think are important.<p>Why is this important to you? Are there things you want to do that you feel you cannot because of this anxiety? Do you feel you are missing out things because of this anxiety? What situations cause this anxiety?<p>Unless you feel you are being negatively impacted by this anxiety, which may be true, you should not be worried or overwhelmed about feeing uneasy in certain situations. Once you can isolate certain areas for improvement you can begin to improve. You can&#x27;t do everything at once.
Zanniover 1 year ago
A public speaking class. Public speaking is terrifying for most people, not just those with social anxiety. But it&#x27;s a very learnable skill. Mastering it (or even getting half-way good) is like gaining a superpower. Suddenly you can do things mere mortals can&#x27;t. You become the person that volunteers to lead the presentation, and so on. For me, this led to a mental reframe where I wasn&#x27;t so much a socially anxious <i>person</i> as I was merely unpracticed&#x2F;unskilled at certain social interactions.
gardenhedgeover 1 year ago
Learn to accept failing socially. That may be mumbling and being incoherent when talking to someone at the water cooler and needing to repeat yourself. That might be freezing when doing a presentation and needing to reference your notes. That may be saying the wrong thing at the wrong time and offending someone and needing to backtrack later or deal with the consequences. Learn that failing is an okay outcome for these things.
PeterStuerover 1 year ago
I joined an amateur theather group for a few years. It&#x27;s definitly not for everybody, but it does force you to &#x27;perform&#x27; in public.
eicnixover 1 year ago
First getting diagnosed, medicated and therapy. CBT is an amazing tool to help you rewire your thought processes and self image. (Access to therapy might vary based on your location&#x2F;healthcare system but I cannot recommend it enough)<p>Therapy is only the first step to give you the capabilities to allowing you to effectively “expose” yourself to more social situations like many others have already commented.
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dustedover 1 year ago
I leaned into it. Desensitization was the way to go for me, anxiety in my case was an mostly overreaction to a type of stimuli I have a natural aversion against.<p>This means saying yes to events and participating as much as possible, even though I personally didn&#x27;t care for it.<p>I&#x27;ve learnt a lot about myself (and others) by doing this.
TomaszZielinskiover 1 year ago
There was a related thread recently: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38301414">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38301414</a> (Show HN: I made a 30-day social anxiety challenge). I can&#x27;t vouch for the challenge, but many comments there were helpful IMHO.
RamblingCTOover 1 year ago
Therapy, meditation, journaling, and (not verifiable but think it played a part) microdosing.
antwerp1over 1 year ago
Toastmasters (in a club with a very chill vibe and mostly non-native speakers)
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rcbdevover 1 year ago
In middle school I had pretty bad social anxiety probably born from a lack of confidence in myself. Then I enrolled in a vocational school for CompSci with a bunch of ex-BigTech instructors (MSFT, IBM, ORCL, etc.) close to retirement who mentored the students and were really serious about the ethos and importance of engineering.<p>As an impressionable kid (~14 y&#x2F;o) being taugh so much by such competent people instilled in me confidence in my skills and myself. The social anxiety was soon gone and after 5 years of that school I have a very good friend group who share my interests and I will cherish until I die.<p>TLDR: Be confident in yourself and what you can do.
solardevover 1 year ago
It was a combination of several deliberate and non-deliberate things for me:<p>1) Age: I don&#x27;t think I can overstate how much of a difference this makes in terms of not just your own emotional maturity, but also that of the people around you. It was much harder for me in high school and early college than later in life. In my late 30s now, and my friends groups just have zero drama and are mutually supportive as best as we can be. Just waiting can make it better, slowly over time.<p>2) Dating (usually online) and suffering through a shit ton of rejections in my early 20s, but still doing it over and over, just to meet more and different kinds of people. It hurt a lot at first but eventually it got to the point where I could walk away and say &quot;OK, thanks for the transparency and the fun dinner! Best of luck in your search&quot;. It always stings a little, but you get over it and hopefully learn a little from it.<p>3) Forcing myself to try new things, with new people, across many swaths of society. I line danced with wannabe cowboys (and some real ones), sat in on city council planning meetings, planted trees, volunteered at nonprofits, attended Navy environmental reviews, joined a Wiccan meetup, went salsa dancing at the Mexican restaurants, joined a swim club, went rock climbing, rode my bike to a naked campfire, work-traded at a yoga studio, worked at different jobs from coding to farming to trailbuilding, played D&amp;D with friends, went to house parties, did karaoke sober, joined dinner groups and dance groups with older people, played video games with frat kids... all in a few years. (Didn&#x27;t get much homework done, heh.) For contrast, in years past I also spent the better part of a year as a depressed and suicidal teenager, at home, with almost zero human contact. I had to put in very deliberate effort, not being a natural extrovert, very shy and with a poor command of spoken English at the time.<p>4) All of the above, combined, led me to the most important development: making and keeping awesome friends. I have only three friends who code, and dozens more from different walks of life. They added so much warmth and comfort and love and acceptance to my life, especially the women who I had platonic relationships with (it is possible! and yes feelings can happen, but you just deal with them maturely and fairly for both parties).<p>Eventually you meet enough people and spend enough time with them to learn the best, most liberating lesson of them all: You&#x27;re just not that special :) And that&#x27;s totally okay! We all have our hang ups and fuck ups, and have made our share of mistakes. Try to love and forgive and understand other points of view, put yourself in their shoes, etc. and eventually the rest just kinda fall into place. Eventually you start to realize that everyone else is equally, if not more, anxious about one or more things in their lives. Even people I once imagined were social butterflies had hangups I thought were really silly but seriously scared them. And as much as I&#x27;ve grown, there are still situations that would make me super anxious.<p>Now, most of the above only really applies if you&#x27;re relatively within the norms (however you define them) of society. I have friends who are on the spectrum to various degrees, for example, and it&#x27;s much harder for some of them. They also cope in other, non-social ways that don&#x27;t work for me. I can&#x27;t speak more to that because I haven&#x27;t lived through it.<p>But in general, just facing your discomforts one by one, repeatedly, and trying to learn from each one. FEEL each one and accept it and grow from it. It&#x27;s not easy, but do what you can, and it&#x27;ll be worth it however far you get!
seungwoolee518over 1 year ago
Maybe If you can get a medical service, that can be an option.
barrysteveover 1 year ago
By asking the question<p>&#x27;How did you overcome social anxiety?&#x27;<p>to strangers and to myself.
teklaover 1 year ago
By not giving a fuck. 99.9999% of people don&#x27;t give a fuck about you.
pipeline_peakover 1 year ago
Do it
qupover 1 year ago
bartending