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27% of New Cars in France Now Plugin Electric Cars

55 pointsby grammersover 1 year ago

8 comments

toomuchtodoover 1 year ago
> In October, pure electrics once again outsold PHEVs — 63% share of the plugin market vs. 37% — keeping the BEV share at 64% vs. 36% PHEV in 2023. This represents a slight increase of 2% of BEV share compared to the final 2022 result (64% vs. 62%). Added to the also slight increase in plugin share, this could mean that the French plugin market has reached the ceiling of what current models can offer — and new, cheaper EVs will be needed to break it open further in order for the EV transition to reach new heights.
nottorpover 1 year ago
I wonder. Isn&#x27;t that because poor people can&#x27;t buy even new cheap cars these days?<p>So the share of electrics is there because only the rich early adopters have bought a new car lately.
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tibbydudezaover 1 year ago
Rather surprised by the sales of the MG 4 , a Chinese make - they bought the remains of MG Rover (MG=Morris Garage) when they went bust in the UK.<p>It looks rather nice for a subcompact SUV - reminds me a Corolla based Cross.
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ZeroGravitasover 1 year ago
This tool shows that an EV in France pays back it&#x27;s carbon debt and overtakes gasoline after 10,000Km (roughly 1 year).<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.transportenvironment.org&#x2F;discover&#x2F;how-clean-are-electric-cars&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.transportenvironment.org&#x2F;discover&#x2F;how-clean-are-...</a><p>It also lets you change country and various other parameters e.g. compare with diesel or hybrids.<p>Two other interesting things I noticed:<p>1.It lets you choose where the battery is made (China Vs EU average Vs Sweden) and it has relatively little impact.<p>2. It lets you choose solar panels instead of a national grid, and France&#x27;s grid almost exactly matches the figure they use.
dm319over 1 year ago
What are you people in France paying for electricity at the moment?
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russellbeattieover 1 year ago
In the first nine months of 2023, electric vehicles accounted for 21.5% of cars sold in California (7.4% nationwide). Apparently we&#x27;re ahead of schedule to get to 100% before 2035 when ZEV will be mandatory.
GuB-42over 1 year ago
Some consideration.<p>There is a tax in France called &quot;malus écologique&quot; that depends on CO2 emissions, and it keeps raising. In 2024, it may become more expensive than the car itself, up to 60k€.<p>But for plug-in hybrids (&gt;50km range), you don&#x27;t have to pay that tax. So if you want a gas guzzler, buy the plug-in hybrid version.
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elkosover 1 year ago
Do we count the Citroen ami as a car or not?
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