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Chipsynth C64 is an emulation of the SID so good, it can replace hardware

153 pointsby adunkover 1 year ago

12 comments

H1Supremeover 1 year ago
I have the Chipsynth MD, which is a Sega Mega Drive (aka Genesis) based synth from Plogue and it&#x27;s one of my favorite plug-in synths. It&#x27;s pretty remarkable how much it nails the sounds from those games.<p>This video shows some insight into the development process: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?app=desktop&amp;v=VLxTHYGLKY0" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?app=desktop&amp;v=VLxTHYGLKY0</a>
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soundsubsover 1 year ago
I bought it yesterday and I&#x27;m loving it. It&#x27;s really good! AND NO SAMPLES! I want to support developers like this who make something out of bounds with math instead of same old same old (samples, kontakt player, half done synth engine) I appreciate the level of detail and effort he put into this emulation, and it ALMOST cures my lust for a THERAPSID mk3.
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crtifiedover 1 year ago
[see me answering my own question, at bottom of comment]<p>Is there scientific data supporting the verbal &quot;it&#x27;s really good&quot; and &quot;we did lots of research&quot; claims?<p>Such as mdfourier testing and comparison with the original chips, or equivalent scientific scrutiny and comparison of the respective outputs?<p>The claims may well be true, but the greater the claim to merit, the more robust the supporting evidence should be.<p>[Answer follows: ]<p>Yes there does appear to be some, at approx 10m45sec of this Youtube video which is contained within the OP link. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=pePq68HaI7M" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=pePq68HaI7M</a>
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wdfxover 1 year ago
I recently came across <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;tildearrow&#x2F;furnace">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;tildearrow&#x2F;furnace</a><p>Super impressive tracker and emulator for many different 8 bit synth chips.<p>As a personal project I&#x27;m also embarking on a 4x AY-3-8910 chip synth all hooked up to as esp32-s3 for usb midi
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mrobover 1 year ago
This appears to be proprietary software. If you prefer Free Software, reSID also provides very good SID emulation:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;ReSID" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;ReSID</a>
MenhirMikeover 1 year ago
The Plogue stuff is really high quality, though I wonder how it compares to their own chipsounds which already did the SID - I guess it&#x27;s more all-encompassing of the different SID variants? Anyway, will give it a look later, this is neat! (Good to see they&#x27;re explicitly calling out PWM, that&#x27;s one of the key parts that made so much of the sound work so well on the machine)
leptonsover 1 year ago
Wow lots of hype about this out today - it showed up twice in my youtube feed.<p>It does sound pretty good. Not sure it will see much use outside of demoscene musicians though. I would love to be hearing more c64 music in my life though, glad Chipsynth exists.<p>Now what am I going to do with the half dozen SID chips I&#x27;ve been hoarding for the last 30 years?
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nicktover 1 year ago
15 years in the making - incredible effort guys.<p>Will we have to wait another 15 years for the ZX Spectrum version? :)
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weinzierlover 1 year ago
I already have a SID emulation from Plogue from a couple of years ago.<p>An overview what is new would have been nice. I think at least the UI looks a bit smoother buy otherwise it is hard to tell if an upgrade is worth it.
jerrysievertover 1 year ago
my problem with this is that they aren&#x27;t telling you what they&#x27;re selling.<p>they say they&#x27;re selling deep Sid chip emulation, but for what platform and for what formats? if I knew, I&#x27;d either be all over it, or wait until they supported what I was after (in my case, AU synth on macos), but without any information on what I&#x27;d be buying, it&#x27;s a very hard sell.
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LanzVonLover 1 year ago
There are unique qualites inherent to the SID itself that makes it impossible without a circuit-level simulation that also models signal leakage and crosstalk because that&#x27;s why it sounds like it does. Gigs of research, they claim, what&#x27;s that even mean?<p>No sir I&#x27;ll stick with my MSSIAH.
radarsat1over 1 year ago
Although its sound is legendary, I can imagine it&#x27;s not that complicated a chip. Had anyone ever tried to replicate it with discrete components?
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