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Firefox Keeps Getting Faster

303 pointsby goplayoutsideover 1 year ago

24 comments

jetrinkover 1 year ago
I&#x27;d like to see better stability. My biggest issue with Firefox on Windows right now is that it hangs if I leave it open for several days. Mozilla does have a suggestion on their support site: don&#x27;t do that[1]:<p>&gt; Firefox hangs after using it for a long time<p>&gt; Firefox may hang if left open for long periods of time. To fix the issue, restart Firefox.<p>So I can choose between closing all of my open tabs at the end of each workday or randomly losing them during the workday. Since having my tabs open when I start work helps me jump back in, I&#x27;ve settled on randomly losing my tabs.<p>They also suggest using their session restore feature after a hang, but with this type of crash, Firefox is never able to restore your tabs. It also doesn&#x27;t record the crash report in about:crashes. Overall, not great and it has me thinking of trying Brave.<p>1. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;kb&#x2F;firefox-hangs-or-not-responding#w_firefox-hangs-after-using-it-for-a-long-time" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;kb&#x2F;firefox-hangs-or-not-re...</a>
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Almondsetatover 1 year ago
Firefox keeps competing on the wrong things.<p>See ARC browser. It&#x27;s developed by a minuscule team but what they do is turn the experience of browsing the web into pure smooth pleasure. They will never in a million years gather enough talent to outcompete the V8 engine, but what they can do is develop better user workflows to empower them.<p>Firefox could be such a workhorse of a browser. They could add so many features to make the lives of academics, researchers, journalists and professionals in general better. Who cares if it&#x27;s a bit slower than Chrome if it allows to efficently write my article or keep together the sources for my thesis?
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raybbover 1 year ago
My phone is a bit old (Pixel 4a) but it drives me crazy that so many times I type something into Firefox and it just shows a blank screen. Then I have to restart the app or open a new tap and type again. Feel it happens at least 20% of the time. No idea why and its not an internet issue. There is no loading. There is nothing.
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rpgbrover 1 year ago
I really wish Firefox were a better citizen on macOS. Its weird text treatment, basic stuff such ignoring snippets substitutions, text navigation conventions (Option + arrow, for instance), are deal breakers to me. I’d gladly use Firefox as main browser if all these little details worked as expected for any macOS app.<p>For now, I’m sticking to Safari, which is fine as well, and (not surprisingly) works like every app should word on macOS
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sertbdfgbnfgsdover 1 year ago
Maybe I&#x27;m the crazy one here, but I can&#x27;t remember last time firefox speed was an issue.<p>You want your software to be really snappy, we all agree on that. But past some point, it&#x27;s physically impossible for a human to tell the difference. I believe a human can&#x27;t detect if a tab takes 10ms or 1ms to open.<p>Firefox has been past the point where &quot;fast&quot; matters for a very long time (and that&#x27;s a great thing!)
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rodletteover 1 year ago
Good to see the benefits of telemetry, which the FOSS is typically skeptical of: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hacks.mozilla.org&#x2F;2023&#x2F;10&#x2F;down-and-to-the-right-firefox-got-faster-for-real-users-in-2023&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hacks.mozilla.org&#x2F;2023&#x2F;10&#x2F;down-and-to-the-right-fire...</a> .<p>I&#x27;ll make sure FF telemetry is enabled for me. I typically disable them because I don&#x27;t trust vendors to not include something I consider sensitive.
notme43over 1 year ago
I&#x27;ve noticed that performance of Firefox on Linux can vary quite a bit from distro to distro. Mozilla uses aggressive compile, link time, and profile guided optimizations in the default Firefox binary they distribute, whereas distributions like Debian compile with very safe options and little optimizations enabled. You can see these with about:buildconfig. It&#x27;s such a big difference sometimes that it makes sense why they previously branded unofficial releases as Pale Moon.
czottmannover 1 year ago
Hi, macOS user here. I know Firefox is great, and I&#x27;d love to use it (again), but Mozilla&#x27;s decision to remove all user-facing, OS-level scripting capabilities from it (i.e., AppleScript) made me drop it a few years ago. Getting anything out of FF on macOS, locally, is a major pain in the ass, actually. Try to grab the current URL from the active tab…<p>Add to that the non-macOS text handling, macOS-unlike font rendering, its insistence to not use the system-wide spell checker provided by the OS etc. It feels a bit rude at times.<p>I think it&#x27;s a super-solid browser that unfortunately doesn&#x27;t give a shit about the platform it&#x27;s running on. Irritatingly, it&#x27;s fine with being a black box, so much more than the Chromiums are (for all their various faults).
ilrwbwrkhvover 1 year ago
Firefox is great! It is my daily driver. However a lot of small things irritate me. For example, make Firefox fullscreen and open a long page. Move your mouse to the far right of the page and drag down. The page will not scroll. You need to carefully put your mouse on the tiny scrollbar to make it work. Chrome, Safari on the other hand work as expected.
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gtirloniover 1 year ago
Firefox should be the obvious choice or at least a very close second to Chrome, considering the millions Mozilla gets.<p>That or a browser is a billion dollar project nowadays and Mozilla doesn&#x27;t have the resources to compete?
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spiritplumberover 1 year ago
I&#x27;ve stuck with Firefox since 2008ish and .... it works well?
yc-kralnover 1 year ago
The only thing that keeps getting faster is the abandonment of Firefox. It doesn&#x27;t matter how fast Firefox is, or how private it is, or any of the other garbage the Mozilla foundation has been wasting their time on. If Firefox continues to slip in usage, and eventually into obscurity, it is all for nothing.<p>A technically superior, or safer, or more private, or whatever the current line of argumentation and marketing is, does <i>not</i> matter. Mozilla VPN does <i>not</i> matter.
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Unfrozen0688over 1 year ago
Yup, I can tell.<p>Now, I just want native vertical tabs.<p>It&#x27;s annoying that Edge and Brave and Vivaldi does it better.<p>AND an F2 style command line like Vivaldi, PLEASE!!<p>Copy this <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;help.vivaldi.com&#x2F;desktop&#x2F;shortcuts&#x2F;quick-commands&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;help.vivaldi.com&#x2F;desktop&#x2F;shortcuts&#x2F;quick-commands&#x2F;</a>
ghostpepperover 1 year ago
My biggest annoyances in Firefox are stuff like Pocket, VPN, Colorways etc.<p>Also I don’t have specifics but get the sense the security sandboxing is not in the same league as chrome.
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briantakitaover 1 year ago
I enjoy using Firefox as my primary browser...but it&#x27;s animation performance significantly lags Chrome
hesnutsover 1 year ago
Does anyone have a good way to auto export FF bookmarks on some cadence to a folder for backup purposes (e.g. a location in ones dropbox folder)?<p>Thats one thing I like about Brave, the bookmarks are auto synced somewhere
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anizanover 1 year ago
Strangely theres a huge speed difference using speedometer 2.1 benchmark on mac reporting from m2 pro.<p>467 on chrome vs 372 on firefox
krackersover 1 year ago
Almost 2007+17 and Firefox still doesn&#x27;t set a bit to prevent sleep while downloading files.
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grizzlesover 1 year ago
I&#x27;m a firefox user on Ubuntu. They need to improve the cold start time badly. It currently takes me 4-5 minutes from launch to page load. Once loaded I have no issues with the performance but Chrome is vastly superior in this area.<p>EDIT: I rely highly on the Restore Previous Session feature. That might be why.
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EVa5I7bHFq9mnYKover 1 year ago
What use is 1 millisecond improvement in page load time, if every second page on today&#x27;s internet requires me to click on cookie consent form, or to solve a difficult captcha, or to pay to continue reading, or turns out to be a 30-screens AI chez d&#x27;oeuvre? Enshittification of the web is real and painful.
29athrowawayover 1 year ago
It regularly gets stuck on Linux for minutes at a time. Even if you disconnect your Internet connection.
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jessehattabaughover 1 year ago
Speedometer performance has improved; it&#x27;s <i>almost</i> as fast as Chrome was last year! Chrome is still 13% faster.<p>JetStream performance is still miserable though; 50% slower than Chrome.<p>Worst of all Firefox doesn&#x27;t support PWAs, so I&#x27;ll be using Brave until it does.
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badrabbitover 1 year ago
I love firefox but i don&#x27;t have as much faith in mozilla as an org. IMHO, they should consider firefox a loss leader (despite search engine deals) and focus on unrelated projects that make money and attract users due to the firefox brand.<p>Or...hear me out: Firefox gets into the adblocker business and lets the big boys paya fortune to be exempted by default. This includes using ML to block ads (i have ideas on how to implement unblockable ads using traditional means).<p>I really wish they would invest more in servo. Imagine a memory safe browser!<p>But beyond all that, EU and US govs mandating it as the only default browser would be huge for mozilla.<p>They&#x27;re catching up now in some areas like GPOs but mozilla has nothing on chrome enterprise.<p>They don&#x27;t realize that corporate types are eager to spend money or random shit so long as b2b marketing is done right (makes the buyer look good internally). And I cna sort of see the conflict because they are pro-privacy and chrome enterprise is very much about giving security&#x2F;system admins control. For example, if a user clicks through a failing https warning or downloads a file despite safe browing (phishing&#x2F;malware) warning you would know. So long as you make sure it is only sold to enterprise and gov customers, giving them such insights (and much more, even browsing history) can be a good money maker, help dominate the market share and maintain moral leadership (don&#x27;t do personal stuff at work or shit where you eat).
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SV_BubbleTimeover 1 year ago
Congrats Mozilla! You made improvements to a product you allow dwindle to 2-3% market share.<p>Forest and trees… who cares that you made it faster if continually less and less people use it. The extreme majority do not care about tiny improvements to speed.<p>If they were interested in growing market, they would be integrating ublockOrigin and other anti-ad software. They literally have nothing to lose anymore.
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