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Scary AI recognizes passwords by the sound of your typing

34 pointsby grammersover 1 year ago

9 comments

JanneVeeover 1 year ago
I read about this in the Silence on the Wire by Michal Zalewski. And you don&#x27;t need a fullblown AI, a good statistical model is enough to make a guess on passwords, and if you have a bunch of probabilities to cut down your search space to a more probable set. And the book is from 2005, so I wouldn&#x27;t say it is new. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nostarch.com&#x2F;silence.htm" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nostarch.com&#x2F;silence.htm</a><p>I even remember reading about how Clifford Stoll recognized the different attackers by &quot;typing rhythm&quot; in Cuckoo&#x27;s Egg.
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nocsiover 1 year ago
This is why I use a separate keyboard to type in my password. If you don’t have a dedicated keyboard, then I suggest you have a loved one come over to enter your passwords for you. Sometimes I have my kid do it
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belterover 1 year ago
No details about what specific study they are referring to. These attacks are possible for several years now.<p>2016 - &quot;Don&#x27;t Skype &amp; Type! Acoustic Eavesdropping in Voice-Over-IP&quot; - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1609.09359" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;1609.09359</a><p>2020 - &quot;Behavioral Acoustic Emanations: Attack and Verification of PIN Entry Using Keypress Sounds&quot; - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC7309150&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC7309150&#x2F;</a><p>Maybe they mean this one...<p>2023 - &quot;A Practical Deep Learning-Based Acoustic Side Channel Attack on Keyboards&quot; - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2308.01074" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2308.01074</a>
firecallover 1 year ago
And just today there is a post about the Sneakers Movie Promotional Floppy!<p>Now, from memory I’m pretty sure there is a scene where the visually impaired &#x2F; blind Hacker can work out the password by listening to the audio on the surveillance tape!<p>I’m probably mangling my memory of the scene, so please correct me! :-)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38585213">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38585213</a>
sublinearover 1 year ago
Wasn&#x27;t it on-screen keyboards that were the mitigation against keyloggers way back in the day?
thot_experimentover 1 year ago
Does anyone know what the SotA foss local demo of something like this is? I&#x27;d really like to try and understand first hand what the limitations are.
Freedom2over 1 year ago
This is why I don&#x27;t type and dictate my passwords using voice. Never been broken into once!
rvzover 1 year ago
Just use a passkey or U2F device. No password at all.<p>Job done.
Erratic6576over 1 year ago
Don’t type passwords. Use 2FA whenever possible
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